April, 2011: This blog post began to discuss fellowship enhancement but discussed and continues to discuss various issues related to research and fellowships (mostly by Science students). Read all the details and leave a comment if you have any query; chances are someone will answer it as a number of research scholars are regularly following it). The fellowship enhancement actually is 16k and 18k and not as 18 k and 21k Rupees pm (read chronology below). The blog post continues to attract scholars who want to discuss various issues related to scholarship and research. JNU Research Scholar Amit Ranjan has been most active on this front; you can even find his mail id and phone no. in the comments section if you want to contact him (he also keeps an eye on the comments here).
PLEASE READ EVERYTHING HERE (INCLUDING THE COMMENTS) AND KEEP VISITING FOR UPDATES.
The University Grants Commission (UGC) has increased the Junior and Senior Research Fellowships (JRF/SRF) to 18000 and 21000 Rupees per month respectively and it will be applicable retrospectively from September 1, 2009. The YFE in JNU campus on 19 December, 2009 put up the following wall poster congratulating the student community: an RTI reply from the UGC [F. No.12-20/2009 RTI/(SA-1)] confirming the increase in fellowships.
The RTI reply from the concerned department in UGC is in Hindi language. It also answers some questions apart from the fellowship amount increase. The UGC had earlier indicated that the increase will be 16000 and 20000 Rupees per month. So this increase is a pleasant surprise to students. This increase does not relate to the CSIR, Rajiv Gandhi National Fellowships, DBT or ICMR but sooner or later it all fellowships should be at par. Here is a snapshot of the RTI reply captured from the YFE poster. Also see the update below (this is yet to be approved by the Finance Ministry).
Update: 22 Dec 2009
The following news piece in Hindi Hindustan (Delhi edition) says the increment is awaiting approval in the Finance Ministry and it has been three months. It also says that CSIR (and other bodies like the DST, ICMR) will increase the JRF/SRF amount to 18000 and 21000 Rupees once it is approved for the UGC. [Update: by Hindi Hindustan I mean the Hindustan dainik Hindi newspaper of the Hindustan Times group. I wrote Hindi Hindustan so that people do not confuse it with the Hindustan Times English paper. See the comments criticizing me here]
UPDATE 21 January 2010: Cabinet approves seat increase for JRF through CSIR NET.
“Increase in the Junior Research Fellowship (JRF) through CSIR-UGC National Eligibility Test (NET) by two fold over the Tenth Plan period. During the Tenth Five Year Plan a total of about 6000 young students benefited by availing CSIR-JRF through NET. In the Eleventh Plan CSIR proposes to increase the number by two fold. The total cost of providing fellowships for about 12000 students in the Eleventh Plan is estimated at Rs.444.34 crore.” Read the full report in this PIB release.
UPDATE 11 FEB 2010: UGC CHAIRMAN CONFIRMS IT IN A JNU PUBLIC MEETING
Here is some solid news for on this. Yesterday the law minister was in JNU Campus with JNU VC and UGC Chairman S.K. Thorat in a public meeting in SSS auditorium in JNU campus attended by about 500 students. Amit Ranjan, the YFE activist in JNU, publicly asked this question to the Mr. Thorat on whether or not the UGC is increasing the fellowship amount to 18000 and 21000 Rupees along with a copy of the UGC RTI reply published above. The UGC Chairman said the RTI reply is authentic and the increase will soon be implemented once the approval letter comes from the Finance Ministry. He also said that he will phone/update the JNU VC on 11 February 2010 about it. He even said that the UGC Non-NET Fellowships (of 3k, 5k Rupees for M.phil PhD students) may be increased to 5k and 8k Rupees respectively.
Please note that it is about UGC and not CSIR but needless to say sooner or later it will be implemented everywhere (as indicated the HT news item above). Also Amit Ranjan and others have filed scores of RTIs to various bodies on this; keep watching this space and blog for updates.
Update: UGC Replies to RTI queries ,11 Feb 2010.
See the snspshots below. UGC in the RTI replies has informed that the “fellowship increment announced is pending due to allocation of funds by the Ministry of HRD.” There are some other questions too but the UGC has not replied to them as you can see below.The UGC replies are in the column on the right hand side (blank meaning no reply).
Update: News in Hindustan (Hindi) published 16 February 2010
See the snapshot of the news item on JRF-SRF increase below. Madan Jaida of HT (the earlier HT news item above is also by him) writes that the JRF SRF fellowship increase is caught in the files due to non-allotment of funds in the MHRD.
DG, CSIR meets students
Update: 10 March 2010. Scroll down and see the comments below. You must read all the debates and discussion here in the comments.
See this 4 MB PDF file
Update: March 17, 2010: See the 4MB PDF files (scanned papers; mostly RTIs replies). Click here to view the google doc.
Update: DST revieses emoluments and guidelines
Click here to see the pdf (office memorandum dated 31 March 2010). Also see this Physical Research Laboratory (PRL) memorandum dated 30 April 2010 on JRF SRF enhancement.
Update: ICMR Notification 11 June 2010
Please see this ICMR JRF notification dated 11 June 2010 on the JRF/SRF fellowship increase.
Update: DAE notification
Please click here to see the DAE notification on fellowship revision dated 30 June 2010.
Update: DBT Notification
See the Department of Biotechnology notification on revision of emoluments to JRF, SRF and others dated 09.07.2010 which endorses the DST OM dated 31.03.2010.
Update: UGC fellowship increased pending with MHRD
See this RTI reply dated 8 July 2010 by UGC for more addressed to IIT student Malish.
Update: MHRD Notification dated 30 September 2010
Revision of rates of Ph.D Scholarship in AICTE funded and Centrally Funded Technical Institutions under the Ministry of Human Resource Development. Click here to view the pdf.
Update: CSIR publishes memorandum revising fellowships and associateships (dated 26 November 2010)
Click here to see the notification.
Update: DOS (Dept. of Space) Notification dated 16 November 2010
Click here for the pdf copy of the notification (1.25 MB, scanned copy; courtesy Annirudhha).
Update: Amar Ujala news item dated mid-Januayr 2010 on UGC fellowship increase and notification received in Delhi University
See this news item published on page 5 of Amar Ujala, Allhabad edition, 12 January as sent by a reader and click here for the notification received by Delhi University sent by the UGC.
Update: April 2011. See this UGC document for enhancement confirmation
Download this PDF document uploaded by the UGC and see pages 73 and onwards. It clearly states about the enhanced fellowships (160000 and 180000 Rupees JRF and SRF). It also says that Rajiv Gandhi Fellowships (RGNF) will be enhanced soon.
RGNF also increased wef 01 April 2010
The same increase has been effected in the Rajiv Gandhi National fellowship. Please click here to see the screen shot of announcement from the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment’s website or click here to go the site (if the link has not expired). (Thank you Vineeta Mohan for the update and link)
April 2011: UGC finally uploads OM on fellowship increase
Click here to see the pdf of the OM file dated 2010 (Dec?) that the UGC finally uploaded on its website in the notices section (sometime in late April 2011; how lazy they are!).
May 2011: CIC decision on seeking efficiency of CSIR fellowships
CIC has ruled in favour of a petition by Amit Ranjan who had sought, among other things, the data on efficiency of CSIR fellowships—”By efficiency, he means the percentage of fellows who ultimately get PhD Degrees etc. He also wishes to have their absolute numbers. This information is disclosable to the appellant. The CPIO may provide this information for last 07 years.” See this pdf for details.
Join the discussion in the comments area for latest updates
This page is presently the meeting ground of scholars discussing this matter. Feel free to leave your comments and join the discussion below. Please do not confuse others by providing misinformation. Must see the comments for the latest happenings on this issue. Thank you everyone for making it a wonderful resource page on fellowship updates.
Hurray.
but how long will it take for sanction by finance department?
do we have to wait and watch?
Hello, thank you for all the information you have put in. I appreciate your efforts and want to know about current status . Is govt. serious about increasing JRF or these Promises are just a pie in sky. Who in this country will be able to do quality research with peanuts paid in return? Can ‘t a country like India afford to give a decent and legitimate scholarship to its researchers who will do a research for development of country ?Is it justifiable that a even a school teacher is paid much more than a PhD student who have cleared UGC JRF by putting in his heart and soul into it.
Thanks,
Regards,
GK
ICMR increased and circular came to all ICMR institutes
see it
http://icmr.nic.in/circular/2010/21.pdf
About the great policy makers
Kindly say what deference between the candidates who was PhD awarded before 11 July 2009 and other was after 11 July 2009. Suppose one is awarded PhD on 10 July 2009 and other is 12 July 2009 according to blind rule of UGC first is qualified for assistant professor and other second one is not qualified for same post. First you are differentiate people and people by cast and now your label of mental fall so bellow you are seeing the same degree are deference.
The students of PhD, are spent his peak times for his/ her carriers. This knows the makers of regulation for assistant professor because they are all the PhD holders before 11 July 2009 and they are not PhD according to UGC regulation 2009. I thinks the deference between the makers of UGC regulation and us are they are holders of such post, which they can destroyed our carrier and intent in research other hand we are only poor holders of PhD. I thinks this types of PhD man are real terrorisms of our country, who are pays a game for providing job to his/ her relative so they makes like this regulations. If they are really thinks about the our country then they see all the students like one sight but our planes makers and our leaders are all cupped and they makes plan in view of only some powers full man, which can provide them benefits.
The such PhD holders or makers of regulation for assistant professors now say the increase the limits retirement 60 to 65 but they are want now checks the PhD holders after 11 July 2009 or the students who are registered before 11 July 2009 and decrease the opportunities and self earns more and more money. Can such PhD holders or makers of regulation for assistant professors work as emeritus scientist, answer is always NO and Never. Others hands crowds of qualified are standings or waiting for job and want to do goods for country. The policy makers (pets of leaders) pay the roles of olds British rulers. Examples are in 6th pay commotions theirs a lots are mistakes, why makes this types of policies. So such works are they do who are not thinks about our country, they are thinks only about the benefits of self.
I want to say this is the mistake of students or university, who did not, follows the rules which are determined by UGC. This is the maters of UGC and universities, why punished to students. Can they come the opportunity for us, no and impossible.
But all the policy makers are not selfish and pet of leaders, likes SANT GADGE BABA AMRAVATI UNIVERSITY, VEER NARMAD SOUTH GUJARAT UNIVERSITY and MAHATMA GANDHI UNIVERSITY FOR MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT OF TEACHERS IN UNIVERSITY.
I want to say to all the policies makers and respected and responsible ministers of every ministry improve first your labels thinking and do not work only for self.
By Kundan Prasad
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hiiiiiiiii dear u r saying right, i m also with u, cn u please tell me hw cn we sought out our such kind of roblem, actually i m also registered on 2nd dec 2009, nd in my dept(lib. & inf. Sc.), from last three year noone passing net in my dept nd me is also in out of them, tell me any solution?
Till date…no hike…
hello sir,
I have given UGC net paper june 2012 in management subject and i now want to appear again in dec attempt for JRF .
But i lack guidance in this case.
Can u help me??
i wannu knw:
how many vacancies per year are there for those who clear JRF in Management subject in rajasthan and delhi NCR both
is there any way to get info abt it??
Q2 : i have given NET exam once and result awaited .if i give again and get bad marks or fail in second chance ,will second one count??
or first with better marks will continue to count in interview
thanks n regards
Amit,
I think the best policy is to wait and watch.
Sir,
I have selected for CSIR fellowship.And I use to know that CSIR is better than UGC. Then why the stipend of UGC has increased but not for CSIR fellows.Then what is benefit of gating CSIR. It is better to get UGC. This is absolutely unfair. GOV. should think about this mater. If they do not have fund then they increase it to 14000 from 12000. And it should be same for all…
Awesome news…feels great to hear such an increment
ur doing a fantastic job vikas…thanks..was not aware of this increase
hi sir now UGC increased fellowship for details click this and post in this website so that everybody will be aware of it
http://www.ugc.ac.in/notices/enhance_fellow_SAP-II_.pdf
How much time was taken earlier at the time of earlier Increment?…i think that can provide some clue about the hike……of fellowship………..wait and watch
If this is a matter of increment of Salary or perks of illiterate,less eduacted currupt politician, it could have approved immediately by all department of govt of india. How bad luck of india , a research fellow paid less than what a paanwala or rickshaw pullaer of daily wager earn in a month.. keep it up guys !!!
Ashish,
Your anger is justified but to say that daily wagers and paanwalas and rickshaw pullers have more than 12 or 14 k Rupees in a month is a bit too much!
hey vikas
i dont have any ideas about the wages earned by paanwala or rickshaw pullers but just visit the csir homepage and look for the remuneration link in the RTI section. u can clearly see how much depriver we really are
as the drivers and grade IV staffs are earning significntly higher than us.
Okay Surajit,
I read the said portion. Here is an extract from the page on the remuneration of some lower-level employees! http://www.csir.res.in/External/Utilities/Frames/aboutcsir/main_page.asp?a=topframe.htm&b=leftcon.htm&c=/csir/external/heads/aboutcsir/information_act.htm
Impressive salaries indeed. Thanks for the suggestion.
1909 MR RAMU Safaiwala 14411
3118 MR D S RAWAT WATCHMEN 13879
3119 MR RAM KUMAR SAFAIWALA 12678
3120 MR BHAJAN SINGH BEERER 13824
3121 MR HARI RAM WATCHMEN 14214
3163 MR RICH PAL SAFAIWALA 16057
Why are u worried about others increment just wit 4 ur turn…Gods willing your day will come…..
THESE ARE ANOTHER EVIDENCES….LOOK AT THE PAY SCALE OF A TEA MAKER….
839 Sh Narender Singh TEA MAKER 18793
840 Sh Om Prakash BEARER 15288
843 Sh Sabar Singh ASSTT. COOK 14676
ITS JUST NOT FARE WITH THE RESEARCH SCHOLARS….RESEARCHERS GIVE A LOT AND GET A SMALLLLL….AND MOST EMPLOYEE GIVE SMALL GET A LOT…………
I think and positively hope it will start in 2010..
Arindum is right , we need to think positive and hope for best in 2010 !!!
Hi!
i am working as a project associate level -1 in a CSIR-network project in CCMB. after completion of my Ph.D. Is this fellowship increase applicable to RA, PDF and Project associate.
Kindly inform.
Regards
yours sincerely
i am working as a project associate level -1 in a CSIR-network project in CCMB. after completion of my Ph.D. Is this fellowship increase applicable to RA, PDF and Project associate.
Kindly inform.
Regards
yours sincerely
Neelima,
Whatever info I have put it up there. I will update it if I know anything new (or leave a link here if you know something).
Meanwhile what you can do is file an RTI to CSIR for more details (and for most authentic information). If you do not know how to file an RTI application then read this post: http://vikas-gupta.in/2009/01/16/how-to-file-an-rti-petition/
sir i have cleared UGC/CSIR NET as L.S in december 2009, i want to know the procedure how to apply to DST jrf scholarship that is applicable to L.S also ,,,please please help
Hey…Mr. NASEER SANGWAN ,
I am Rinku from Gujarat working as a JRF in RGNF and persuing PHD,
I WANT TO GIVE CSIR-UGC NET EXAM..BUT NOT MORE INFORMATION,PLEASE CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR CONTACT NUMBER OR EMAIL ADDRESS??? I WANT TO ASK ABOUT COACHING CLASS OF CSIR-NET.
PLEASE,PLEASE ALLOW ME FOR THAT, PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME.
Reply
9965819463 if u want i can help
Hey…Mr. NASEER SANGWAN ,
I am Rinku from Gujarat working as a JRF in RGNF and persuing PHD,
I WANT TO GIVE CSIR-UGC NET EXAM..BUT NOT MORE INFORMATION,PLEASE CAN YOU GIVE ME YOUR CONTACT NUMBER OR EMAIL ADDRESS??? I WANT TO ASK ABOUT COACHING CLASS OF CSIR-NET.
PLEASE,PLEASE ALLOW ME FOR THAT, PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME.
It feels good to hear the news of hike of salary.Lets hope it is implimented as soon as poosible.
Please give the latest information about the payment hike of research scholars.
I do not have any information to update here. Feel free to submit an RTI to UGC/CSIR (see comments above on how to file an RTI application).
Is there will be any problem if I submit RTI to UGC/CSIR in future regarding my fellowship?
Ranjit,
Why will there be any problem? Feel free to ask any question to them. But if you are still worried you can use a friend’s name or pseudonym and ask the fellowship question in general. All the best.
Government to revise value of doctoral fellowships: PM
“The government is considering the revision of the value of doctoral and post-doctoral fellowships. New schemes will be formulated to cover all research scholars with some funding support,” Manmohan Singh said at the inaugural of the Indian Science Congress (ISC2010) here.
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3515448
Thanks Rajesh for the link and the update!
Is it realy applicable to CSIR-SRF only the ugc.
yes… finaly it is a good hope for research schplar
yes. it will be very good news for research scholars
srf results when it will come for july session
is this hike in stipend applicable only for those who have cleared net and get their fellowship from csir or ugc?I am doing my phd at a research institute and have been admitted through other all india exams
Oindrila,
It is presently only for the UGC, then other bodies will implement it. You can file an RTI application with your organisation if you want more authentic info.
Everyone here, there is an update. The Cabinet today approved the seat increase for JRF through CSIR NET and it will be now increased to 12000 from the present 6000. Read the full report here http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=57139
Here is the full text:
sir, what is the amount at present in jrf csir sholarship.
Hello,
is this increament also applicable 4 CSIR Jrf?
It should soon be implemented in all agencies. Please read the full text and comments again.
whether ugc increasing number of fellowships\fellowship amount i.e from 12000 to 18000 for jrf?
cabinet approved only increase in intake of JRF-NET fellowships or hike in fellowship amount?
Sudhakar,
Please read everything here. I know only what i have published here. If I have any updates I will write it here. Thanks.
i am doing phd in metallurgy. is this 6th pay increment applicable for us also?
Just an UPDATE for everyone:
Few days ago I got an RTI reply from JNU administration. They do not have any official communication about the UGC fellowship increase as yet.
A ‘friend and senior with contacts’ says “it has been approved by both the MHRD and Finance ministry” and sooner or later it will be there.
Some students will soon file an RTI with UGC. If any of you filed an RTI with UGC or CSIR, do write updates here.
you from JNU vikas? I would like to know more about this finance ministry approval thingy…
Rajat,
Yes that is so.
And I do not have any concrete info on what you asked. I have written whatever I know in the content and comments here. Thanks.
What fuck is this,
You got a printout and spread it all over India. And how full are those phd scholars who have accepted this . “Hindi Hindustan” what kind of news paper is this. Your fucking information doesn’t have any authenticity. You just want to get publicity for your fuck-in blog. Piss on you man. And on your information. Government is thinking of increasing the fellowship .It generally takes years . You people are telling it is already implemented. And you know the exact amount. If this was true then PM would have declared it in Indian Science congress meeting.
Go to hell
I agree with you Bakwas. In most of the iit and Nit people believing this piece of shit. Which doesn’t have a name. People were telling it was Hindustan Times. Now I come to know it ‘Hindi Hindusta’. We never heard of a news paper with this name. Shame on you Vikash. You played with thousand of scholars.
Rajiv
Rajiv and Bakwas,
This is RTI reply from UGC (fully authentic official reply).
The Hindi Hindustan is Hindustan Dainik newspaper; I culled it from the epaper; . Feel free to criticize me. I am not seeking any publicity here. The CSIR increase in number of fellowships was implemented recently. The govt programmes do take time; why not wait and see instead of criticizing me here.
Bakwas and others,
By Hindi Hindustan I mean the Hindustan dainik Hindi newspaper of the Hindustan Times group. I wrote Hindi Hindustan so that people do not confuse it with the Hindustan Times English paper.
http://epaper.hindustandainik.com/ Go see the piece of news which I have reproduced here in the 22 Dec newspaper. Or talk to Madan Jaida by calling the Hindustan’s office. (the epaper does not have the 22 Dec archieve now; but you can see the hard copy of the paper in your library).
The news is authentic; believe it or not. Implementation will take time of course like all govt. schemes. According to reliable reports, this reporter Madan Jaida was even with Kapil Sibal in a high-profile meeting and had asked it to him. I will soon publish more RTIs here from the YFE activists. Feel free to criticize me more and do not hesitate to write your real names.
And I am also waiting for the increase FYI! So do not think that I do not feel frustrated about the delay.
informations by Vikas are real and people should unite and support him rather than doing Bakwas/uncivilized talking
Thank you Vivek for the comment. Every piece of info here is authentic. I do not fear criticism and will never delete bad comments (I hate censorship).
Thanks again.
HOW MANY JRF’S INCREASED?
Research is the key for update knowledge in all spheres of education if it stops it will definitely paralize the whole system of gaining knowledge. The fellowships (monthly stippened) provided by the UGC/CSIR in the field of science & humanities is not up to the expectations of the scholars working in different field because there is sufficient reason, viz., if you go through the monthly salaries of primary-secondary schools teachers; and other less qualified job holders have more salary than the prestigious JRF/SRf with NET. If the stippen increases the fellows get more enthu in doing their research. There are Scholars from poor families in rural oriented Universities who has to met the requirements of their family from this stippen, all these things should be in mind before taking any dicission by the Minstry of Finance. Implimentation is nessesary.
Thanks
ministers give great lectures about research but never do anything for this field.a group D staff gets much better pay.no one can live like Gautam Buddha in these days where a kg of dal costs around 130.
To the Indian Government—-
ab to kuch karo yaar…..students are our future and research is the only path.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/News/newdelhi/Researchers-to-get-money-equal-to-IAS-entrants/Article1-444409.aspx
Most of you have read this news
People who did not read it; please go to the above link and you can read the news about the fellowship increment which was published on 18th August 2009. Hey Rajiv you must read it.
Thanks for the link Kriss. I had written about it in the post without the link to prevent confusion because now it should soon be 18 k and 21 k Rupees though people here are cursing me!
hey friends plz tell which is truth is it increased or not
can u tell me when the increased fellowship will be implemented?
Atul and others,
I have no idea on the dates of implementation. It will take time just like all govt. schemes.
UPDATE 11 FEB 2010
Here is some solid news for us. Yesterday the law minister was in JNU Campus with JNU VC and UGC Chairman S.K. Thorat. Amit Ranjan, the YFE activist in JNU, publicly asked this question to the Mr. Thorat on whether or not the UGC is increasing the fellowship amount to 18000 and 21000 Rupees along with a copy of the UGC RTI reply published above. The UGC Chairman said the RTI reply is authentic and the increase will soon be implemented once the approval letter comes from the Finance Ministry. He also said that he will phone/update the JNU VC on 11 February 2010 about it. He even said that the UGC Non-NET Fellowships (of 3k, 5k Rupees for M.phil PhD students) may be increased to 5k and 8k Rupees respectively.
Please note that it is about UGC and not CSIR but needless to say sooner or later it will be implemented everywhere (as indicated the HT news item above).
Thanks Vikas for new updates.
Surely fellowship will increased as you mentioned. I have news published on 29 th JAN 2009. as follow
http://www.thehindu.com/2010/01/29/stories/2010012955051100.htm
Research fellowships to be increased
Special Correspondent
NEW DELHI: The Centre plans to give a boost to research in basic science by increasing the number of research fellowships and fellowship money for scholars.
Secretary of Department of Science and Technology T. Ramasami said the government was planning to increase the quantum of research fellowships by at least 40 per cent………………..Thanks a lot.
Thanks Ashok for the link.
what is the date u r xpecting , vikas???
before april ??
this page is a good job , dude.
keep it up.
Indian, I have no idea on that but yes it should not take later than April. Keep visiting this page. Am soon publishing an RTI reply here.
Update: UGC Replies to RTI queries ,11 Feb 2010.
See the snspshots added above. UGC in the RTI replies has informed that the “fellowship increment announced is pending due to allocation of funds by the Ministry of HRD.”
All those who have criticized me can go fly a kite!
More RTI replies will be here soon.
how much time will the finance minister take to implement it?
How much would be Research Associate (RA) fellowship? Any authentic news on that?
Normally they give Rs.18000/- fellowship to RA and with 50% increase (for JRF and SRF they have given 50% rise) shall we believe it to be around 27000 + HRA? Can anybody confirm about this?
i am a srf working for DBT project. does this increment relates to phd scholars or srfs/RAs working for CSIR/DBT projects in research institutions.
thank you for updating information
Nice Webpage.!! All material is linked with authentic citation: A true sign of true research scholar.!!
Thanks for uploading these news.
Thanks Amit. I had people criticizing me here just the same!
Hi! I want to know that the fellowship hike is 18,000 + HRA or HRA is included in that
Prasad, it does not include HRA, needless to say.
I work as JRF under BRNS sponsered research project. Will the hike in salary be applicable to me. Please let me know….
Praveen,
Presently it is only the UGC but it will soon spread to all other organizations/bodies once it is implemented at the UGC. Feel free to file an RTI to your organization for more information.
Great, thanks for such a wonderful information.
Hi,
My self Gopal, working as JRF under the project scheme of DAE-BRNS (year 2008-2011). I would like to know that whether i can demand for arrears for the 1st year salary as 10K insted of 12 K? Also now they have revised the felloship up 16K so is it effective to me for asking about arrears, spacially?
hope for your attantion..
thanking you
I think in 26th feb budget session they can anounced for the fund, what you think Vikas.
Dear Vikas,
Thanks for informations with nice updates. I confused with news of hindustan times updated at 16th Feb 2010. In news Mrs. Raksha Pahwa is represent as the Under Secretary of Finanace Ministry. But as I know She is the Under Secretary of UGC (Selection and Award Bureau). So Hindustan Times news seems not to be reliable.
Manoj,
You are right; I have also noted that error. The article is genuine and real. Madan Zaida must have written it in a hurry!
Naveen, I have no ideas on that.
I think we can only wait and watch.
Usually how much time will it take for the implementation of salary by other agencies like DST or DAE after UGC implements the new salary scale.
Ab to wait krne ki intha ho gyi h…….plz plz plz koi btao kb badhegi fellowship…
Hi all…..
can anyone please help me with my problem…….I have applied for PhD. at delhi university but have not received my registration letter as yet. But my date of Availing JRF has expired. Although the date on which I had applied to Delhi University falls under the period of availing JRF.
I am really confused and worried about what will happen to my JRF award. Do I still have a chance to avail my JRF???
Please somebody help.
Dear Gaurav, If you applied for funds before expiry date then your JRF award is safe. It will take 3-4 month for saction letter from csir/UGC after that they will send you sanction letter and your fellowship will start. But if you are in delay and applied for fellowship after expiry date then there is quite less chance of activate your fellowship.
If you are CSIR -JRF awardee please contact to CSIR 01125721074.
This number where you can ask about ur fellowchip if ur CSIR fellow.
Thanks
Dear Ashok
Many thanks for your reply. I could not apply to the funds before as I do not have a official registration date.but I have submitted a letter to UGC requesting to keep my JRF alive till the time I get my registration letter from Delhi University. But after that I am not getting any feedback from UGC as what happened to that my request, is my jrf still active.
What to do now….I am confused.
And one more question does anyone has idea about difference in date of registration and date of Joining.
Thanks
it was mention on that result that jrfship will be aplicable till 2 year from that date resut is declared. And the difference between registration and joining date is that u may get registered at ugc after it you join for phd in any university…..mean you can get registered only if you join…..your joining date is not your date of registration….
Dear Gaurav,
I believe the Ph. D. registration and JRFship are two different things. Ideally, CSIR has nothing to do with ur Ph.D. Anyone who has been awarded the fellowship, have to avail the fellowship with the given period of time by CSIR. I donno why have not availed the fellowship even when u were not having registration letter. To do that, it is the ‘joining letter’ that u have to forward to CSIR with PI’s signature.
University will send u a letter that u have been given admission to Ph.D. The date that they will mention on that is ‘date of registration’. but again, CSIR has nothing to do with that, U should have availed the fellowship long back, 6 months are given to the fellow to send the ‘joining letter’. If u r in Delhi, talk to someone in CSIR regarding, see if they can help.
Plz update us here with ur experience as such information may be useful to others.
Thanks Amit for clarifying my doubts……things look a bit clear now and will surely update about the my experience.
i feel if UGC has increased the fellowship, y the hell is CSIR takin so much time.. the exam is conducted jointly by both and the in the result we do not get an option as to we would like to b a CSIR fellow or a UGC fellow.. so both the organizations need to work simultaneously and the proposals should be the same.. and CSIR pl do somethin fast..
Dear Gaurav, Amit is saying correct. There is no relationship between your fellowship and registration. You have to send joining report to CSIR in replicated and your finance department will take care of all these things. You have to send your joining report to CSIR before expiry date and make sure that your joining report has been summited on the time by your finance office to CSIR.
Hope your problem will solve as soon as possible.
All the best for future carrier.
God bless you Always !!!
Its the Budget day today… Atleast will we know today whether the fellowships will be increased or not…
In budget 2010, there are nothing about Fellowship increament, it won’t increase. This is fact about fellowship. We have to wait for 2-4 years.
Finally a ray of light may come in research scholars life, follow this link, you can get some good news.
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=58268
Printer friendly page With Banner | Without Banner Wednesday, February 24, 2010
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government steps to make teaching attractive
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17:35 IST
LOK SABHA
While the power to make appointments to the teaching posts in a Central University vests in its Board of Management/Executive Council, the Government keeps on reminding the Central Universities to fill the vacancies at an early date. The Government/UGC is taking the following measures aimed at attracting the bright young people to adopt teaching in higher education as a career vis-à-vis the opportunity available to them in view of the emerging sectors of economy, thereby managing the teaching positions at various levels:
• Enhancing rates of Junior and Senior Research Fellowships by about 50%;
• Strengthening science based education and research in Universities;
• Disbursement of grant for presentation of research papers in international fora/conferences;
• Enhancing the quantum of research grant to Universities aimed at encouraging research;
• Introducing Ramanujan Fellowship to attract distinguished Indian faculty serving in foreign Universities;
• Introducing Bose Fellowship aimed at strengthening research background of the distinguished faculty serving in India.
• Allowing consultancy charges to be shared by the faculty;
• Revamping Academic Staff Colleges;
• Organizing summer school to train teachers; etc.
• Enhancing the retirement age of teachers from 62 to 65 years as also retention of the re-employed teachers upto the age of 70 years.
This information was given by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Smt. D. Purandeswari, in a written reply to a question, in the Lok Sabha today.
Do u have a GO for this. With out a Govt Order no one can see the salary coming to them. So some please upload GO if u find it anywhere in this issue here…
are you arpan manna?
yes …..can you give ur actual identity
abe ami soumik re
Guru Jambeshwar University, Haryana is giving 18000 per month for their PhD students from this year……..so, hope for the best.
link:http://jansanchaar.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1815:gju-will-conduct-the-phd-entrance&catid=35:haryana-news&Itemid=55
Can any one tell me that when we will get increased fellowship.
I went through the Budget speech. There was no mentioning of any kind of enhancement in the fellowship or enhancement of fund allocation for either UGC or CSIR. If any one has a better reason even now to say that our fellowships will increase, Please let us know with a valid and strong support like a Govt Order or an RTI reply.
I went through the Budget speech. There was no mentioning of any kind of enhancement in the fellowship or enhancement of fund allocation for either UGC or CSIR. If any one has a better reason even now to say that our fellowships will increase, Please let us know with a valid and strong support like a Govt Order or an RTI reply….
hey,can any one tell me that how someone get different UGC JRF and someone CSIR JRF in science subjects while there is single exam? Is CSIR JRF awarded to better marks getter?
No, there is no marks different. I think this is the lottery. because we know only top 20% of the qualified students are called for the SPM written examination.And we know both UGC and CSIR qualified students are called for this exam in the basis of marks only. so there should not be any marks difference between CSIR and UGC.
See the link below.
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=58268
Thanks for the link….I think within a month now.. they are going to announce….Hopefully….!!
when it will going to implement these fellowship. then they will announce the increnment, if yes how much
hi!
I think after 1 year fellowship will be increase!!!
fellowships will NEVER increase.bhar me jao sab.sab sala chutia ,dialogue marte hain ….paise k time me thenga !!!!
disgusting authorities !!!!
Mr. Indian… Pl stop calling yourself as Indian… Be a true Indian than just calling urself an Indian. See Indian govt is giving u a facility to get a degree that too by paying u… The authorities have their own problems when looking after all their responsibilities. So lets give them time… V r not beggers to keep begging them a hike. V r getting a fellowship not a handsome salary… I hope u ll stop thinking like this… Think positive cos thats what is in need for India now to progress…
Mr. Indian, plz mind ur language, U r on public forum. U r proving ur statement with ur own example!
Why have so much of frustration.!!?
praveen, do u know s.hawking is leaving cambridge ???
just ans why ???
all the money for management guys,EDIOTIC SHITS WITH CHEATING ABILITY ???? damn u guys.
why no price for theoritical physicist ????
smartest minds with negligence,why???
I AM NOT FRUSTRATED, I AM HURT WITH TODAY’S WORLD OF THINKING.
Dear Indian, Your frustration is understandable but remember its your own choice. While making career choice, it was you who chose to go for further education instead of going for a job. If money is what attracts you then you could have done a course which is in demand in the booming Indian job-market. Instead of contributing to nation’s economy and getting rewarded for it by handsome salary, you took an unconventional path and now demanding from government to support your education from taxpayers money. Everybody is paid according to the marginal contribution s/he brings to the society and the current societal thinking is that “management guys” contribute more than a wannabe “theoretical physicists”, hence the differential reward. So, get your basics right and change yourself according to the world and do not wait the world to change according to you.
Cheers!
well said Bharatiya…
Before entering into the field of science pl understand guys that V r here for a craze and not to earn money…
This is a very drastic opinion for members in this discussion board, but I feel that Indian government should significantly reduce its doctoral/post-doctoral fellowship schemes. JRFs/SRFs are like dangling bread in the mouse trap, which weans away many young bright Indians towards dead-end careers and contributes to the ‘scientist glut’ problem. The ad-hoc research trainee position idea is taken from the United States, which itself is now debating worthiness of such a system in long run. See this very good article in Scientific American.
Does the U.S. Produce Too Many Scientists? (open access)
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=does-the-us-produce-too-m&offset=6
dear bharatiya,
i am a faculty (joined recently) in a research institute.i myself dont need anything, but i feel bad for the researchers.that’s it dude…
Dear Indian,
If you are faculty then your language is very much bad. After reading felt so bad how can you be the faculty if your own words are not good. Why you think about researchers. First think about what you says at public place. let improve yourself better because your are in society.
As part of Government body (Police officer) we need to take action on you as you are part of research institute. In which institute you do research or work? I think we need to talk with your director and need to show your progress.
Its not good sign of researcher.
Keep patience and by the way fellowship will shortly increased.To increase fellowship require time because it is not to give one person but there is huge quantity of students. So let understand and co-operate.
vikas,
any news ?
Here is an UPDATE for CSIR people
Amit Ranjan of JNU has informed that about 15 students from premier scientific institutions (such as NII, ICGEB, JNU, Maulana Azad and others) had a meeting with Mr. Brahmchari, the CSIR DG on the issue of increment of fellowhips.
They will soon (in a day or two) have a meeting with Mr. T. Ramaswamy (secretary, DST). Amit said he will keep us informed of new developments.
AND HERE IS A BIG NEWS. Mr. Brahmachari, DG CSIR said he reads this blog!
So things are looking bright for CSIR people too. Just wait please.
Great news!!
Better late than never!!
Please keep us informed.
research fellowship in india is pathetic at present. just a graduate in other fields such as management and IT sectors earn thrice as much as a poor research associate with phd earns. considering the long, torturous and extnded period of time we spend doing phd……the value of our phd degree is just Rs. 1000/- (you get 15000 as srf extended and rs 16000 as RA after getting phd)……….This is the fate of a fresh young scientist in INDIA!!!!
well said wave.i also have the same opinion as u.
Hae guys,
I need some help regarding Medical Allowances. Im a research student in Bangalore University. Im getting salary from a project sponsored by DAE-BRNS funding agency. I get 12k + HRA. The rules of BRNS suggest that I should also get Medical Allowances (MA). But since my university has a Primary Health Center I will not get the MA.
A few days back I have met with an accident. Now doctor is suggesting me to undergo an MRI scan which costs me not less than 7k. So i need information whether I can get the benifit of Medical Allowances for such cases. Please if anyone has already undergone this case before pl help me.
Hi Praveen,
Even if your university has a Primary Health Center, you may get Medical Allowances.I m doing PhD from IIT Bombay and we also have hospital for us, even then we can get upto 50,000 of Medical Allowances in one time.So I will suggest to talk to ur university, and u can get substancial amount.
Thanks Vivek.. I ll try to find out with the university people here.
Well Vikas, Doing well and go ahead for Research Scholar rights and promotion of science in INDIA
Dear Vikas/ Amit,
I was thinking if we all can form non-political “Association of
Research Scholars of India”.? This forum will help all student
perusing research in India as well those who wish to. This forum can
also act as channel between universities, institutes or funding
agencies. Most importantly, Can/Shall this forum address the situation
of Research in India and become forum for well being of research and research personnel.!??
Amit, Vikas u, are really working good for a cause. U can be a good
leaders for this ARSI forum, which can be maintained online.
(Forming a forum, I mean, is only for positive changes of any kind.
Working for better causes. RTI is the best tool, Amit Ranjan has proved it. Not otherwise, the way associations work.!!!)
Amit,
Thanks for the suggestion. Amit Ranjan and others have actually forming an informal forum of Science Students. I will soon ask him the details and post it here.
I am fully agree with the suggestion of Amit.this type of assocoation will help India’s Research scholars to make their problems easy.
“AAJ KA BETA DAAL KA PAPITA”….. These are the novel words of our kind and generous CSIR Director General and were said to a group of researchers who just went to enquire about the view and the current status of fellowship increment.
Dated 24-2-2010 , a group of researchers representing from 6 different educational institutions namely JNU, NII, DU, AIIMS, MAMC and IIT went to meet CSIR-DG Prof. Sameer Bhramhachari through an appointment, to ask about what is the current status of CSIR regarding this fellowship increase announced by UGC chairman Dr. Thurrat. Unexpectedly Prof. Bhramhachari was also accompanied by Head of HRDG, Dr. Luthra and shushila khilnani.
During the initial discussion with Dr Luthra, he told us that there is a proposal of this kind but he was not willing to say more. On being asked about the fellowship delay time that the student faces, he explained about the work pressure on HRDG dept. due massive number of affiliated institutions. He told that mostly the delay is on the part of respective institutions and not by HRDG. According to him if an institution is willing then it has enough money to pay our monthly stipends.
When Prof. Bhramhachari arrives, the first thing he asked about was “MUJHE KISI NE METHAI NAHI KHILAYI PICHLI BAAR JAB FELLOWSHIP BADHAI”. True, we apologized. When we asked him about the fellowship increase, he told that he personally feels that we are getting more than enough money to sustain ourselves during the period of PhD. He is a good speaker therefore he lectured us a lot about what was there in 1974 and since then. We listened. There were several hot arguments during this discussion. On hearing that a group student had come, Prof. Bhramhachari thought that we were some political organization. Hence he first enquired from each of us that what institution we belonged and what fellowships were we availing. Then on hearing the view of a JNU student, he says that “WAHA PE TO SAB LEFT HAI”. Amit Ranjan (JNU) asked Prof. Bhramhachari, showing the RTI answer copies from UGC, CSIR and DST, stating that UGC has already announced the fellowship increase but not CSIR. To this Prof. Bhramhachari said that CSIR-HRDG is the main body that conducts the NET exam and it lends some of the fellowship to UGC. Ofnote, he says that UGC fellows are lower in merit. Gopal jee Gopal (JNU) when tried to ask about the transparency in the CSIR system as they did not respond to any of the RTI questions satisfactorily, Prof. Bhramhachari said “TUMHARA NAAM KYA HAI, BATAO MUJHE, MAIN TUMHARA KABHI APPOINTMENT NAHI HONE DOONGA”. To this Gopal jee Gopal said that “MAIN AISI JAGAH JOIN HI NAHI KAROONGA JAHAN PAR SYSTEM TRANSPARENT NAHI HOGA”. Then Prof. Bhramhachari said “you guys don’t study and always say that increase fellowship……I dare you if any one of you could answer my question in your respective fields”. One resrearcher from NII, Arun upadhyay accepted his challenge but as expected could not meet the requirements of our CSIR-DG. Then one of our other colleague ANIS(NII) said to Prof. Bhramhachari that “Sir, we all are Indians and I will ask 5 questions about India and you will not be able to answer any one of them”. Round and round discussion went for about two and a half hours.
Outcome of this meeting are as follows:
1) There is an proposal to increase the number of fellowships in this financial year i.e. 2009-10.
2) There is an proposal to increase the amount of fellowships in the next financial year i.e. 2010-11.
3) If passed then we could get the increased fellowship from 1st April, 2010 onwards.
4) Nothing is certain.
We appeal to all researches of India to put hands together on this issue.
SHAME BE ON MR. BRAHMCHARI! JUST READ ABOVE HOW HE THINKS!!!!!!!!
We should not do Ph.D. at such place where research scholar do not get respect..
It is very shameful..
Finance Minister should interfere this issue. And give satisfaction to all the researchers. After all, researchers build the nation and they are excellent resources of any country.
how much rupees increased jrf and srf please send the details
I am jrf scholar.I have been studing in gandhigram rural university from 16.11.2009. Tillnow i have not a fellowship amount .when send the sanction letter for this year.please send the details
I have been studing in gandhigram rural university from 02.09.2009. Tillnow i have not a fellowship amount .when send the sanction letter for this year.please send the details.
Its really shameful on Dr brahmchari”s view regarding research fellow. let me ask questions Who generate datas, performed research in lab?
A research fellow doing almost all tasks, researchers, technician, labours managers in Labs with uncertain future.
these people once placed in better positions they willing to forgets his Phds situations.
this is fact, all research is doing by jrf srf fellows not by scientists. We think, plan and finally perform , only then institute gets every thing. so plz i would like to say to higher level persons that be with us.
i agree with naveen…….
finance minister Dr. Bramchari should consult with finace minister on the behalf of all reserch fellows.
Dear all
HRD release a press release about the increment the amount of JRF and SRF Please see this link.
http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=58268
Summary is as follows:
Government steps to make teaching attractive
While the power to make appointments to the teaching posts in a Central University vests in its Board of Management/Executive Council, the Government keeps on reminding the Central Universities to fill the vacancies at an early date. The Government/UGC is taking the following measures aimed at attracting the bright young people to adopt teaching in higher education as a career vis-à-vis the opportunity available to them in view of the emerging sectors of economy, thereby managing the teaching positions at various levels:
• Enhancing rates of Junior and Senior Research Fellowships by about 50%;
• Strengthening science based education and research in Universities;
• Disbursement of grant for presentation of research papers in international fora/conferences;
• Enhancing the quantum of research grant to Universities aimed at encouraging research;
• Introducing Ramanujan Fellowship to attract distinguished Indian faculty serving in foreign Universities;
• Introducing Bose Fellowship aimed at strengthening research background of the distinguished faculty serving in India.
• Allowing consultancy charges to be shared by the faculty;
• Revamping Academic Staff Colleges;
• Organizing summer school to train teachers; etc.
• Enhancing the retirement age of teachers from 62 to 65 years as also retention of the re-employed teachers upto the age of 70 years.
This information was given by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Smt. D. Purandeswari, in a written reply to a question, in the Lok Sabha today.
MV/Hb
Mr. amit ye to upar bhi diya h. koi nyi cheeez batao. I think by the first april we will get it.
Dear Vikas, After getting Incresed Fellowship- we will demand for a researcher cell section in HRD ministry. We should shift to fight for basic rights of researcher scholar in India. You should lead in this direction
The most interesting fact is that the University JRF (awarded by the state Govt’s & University) amount has increased and currently it is same as the UGC-JRF scale of pay….according to the officials here in W.Bengal UGC-JRF amount cannot be the same as University JRF. HOPE FOR THE BEST till APRIL FOOLS DAY….lets watch whether we are Researcher or a Govt FOOL !!!!!!
anybody can you tell me when it will be implement and how much exactely, its real or just gossip
raja
its gossip man .i feel bad for u.
All Govt Agnecies are fooling research scholars… Just showing Carrot of fellowship to students.. It is not worth doing Ph.D. in India. Here No Respact also And No MOney also… Very harassing situation of research scholars.
yes correct,no that much facility and money, i agree with you
I think, we all should wait till 31/03/2010. We will get increase amount of UGC-JRF/SRF in new financial year.
No Amit… Do not hope.. Firstly HRD Ministry has to give fund. Then It will go to finance ministry then again it will come back to UGC then they will issue OM. Then after long time our institute will give money… It is very big process… I do not think that it will come so early………
UPDATE:
Amit Ranjan has sent a 4 MB PDF on RTI replies and about a forum. He also said they will get a concrete reply from officials in about 20 days. I am facing a technical error in uploading it here and will do it on Monday.
Here is some text from it:
Dear friends,
After getting response from Respected T. Ramaswami the group of
researchers from AIIMS, JNU, NII, IIT, ICGEB and UCMS meet Dr Milind in DST.
In the corridor we saw Ramaswami sir and tried to enquire about fellowship. There was
hot discussion between us and Mr. Secretary. We will disclose later about discussion. Dr Milind said us for wait some time. We obeyed and decided to wait some times. Friends it is highly condemnable about DST and CSIR as they are not disclosing anything to
researchers. They are fearful about RTI act.
As a sincere citizen of our country we feel there must be reform in Science and
technology so we are coming under one umbrella named Scientific research forum of
India. We have submitted our demand to Mr. Secretary and hope there must be positive
response if he is willing to reform the Scientific System. We submitted some proposal
please see that.
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan ,
Research Scholar,
JNU, New Delhi.
Ph-9818674016
Email- amikaranjan@gmail.com
Dr. T. Ramasami
Secretary, DST
Government of India
Respected Sir,
Society of Young Scientists, AIIMS, New Delhi on behalf of all other institutes like JNU, NII, Delhi University, ICGEB, IGIB, MAMC wants to have an official meeting with you regarding the revision of the emoluments of the JRFs/SRFs. As stated by the DG (CSIR) Dr. Samir K. Bramachari and Dr. Rajesh Luthra (Head, HRDG) DST acts as a
coordinating body on behalf all other funding agencies for the revisioin of the
emoluments of JRFs/SRFs. So sir please gives your appointment at an early date to
discuss the above issue.
Thanking You,
Sincerely
Sanjeev Kumar Chaudhary
Chairman
Society of Young Scientists (SYS)
AIIMS, New Delhi-110608
Mobile No: 91-9868636871
E-MAIL-sanjeevchaudhary.aiims@gmail.com
Dear Shri Chaudhary,
I receive your note of March 3, 2010. We had initiated steps for such revisions through
an Inter-Ministerial Consultation. We are at the moment discussing the details with
Ministry of Finance. DST and other Government Departments do not enjoy the
flexibility of decision bodies like CSIR and UGC.
It will be done hopefully by April, 2010. I would request you to kindly wait for
sometime. If you have anything specific, I would request you to kindly meet some of my
colleagues in the Department during this phase of discussions. Such arrangements are
unfortunately necessary and unavoidable at this time.
Kindest regards,
Yours sincerely,
Dr. T. Ramasami,
Secretary,
Department of Science & Technology,
19, Technology Bhawan, New Mehrauli Road,
New Delhi 110 016.
Tel: 011 – 2651 1439 / 2651 0068
E-mail: dstsec@nic.in
Dear Vikas
What was the hot discussion between you all and Mr. Secretary. Please disclose it………
Amit and others,
Please note this. I have never visited the CSIR or have been part of any delegation. All text and RTIs here are by Amit Ranjan of JNU. The text is by him only. I am only a medium/messenger here for information.
Thanks.
Dear all,
First of all salutes to Vikas, Amit ranjan and other fellow researchers who spend their valuable time and effort. Well it seems that this increase is not a gossip at all. So its better to wait. As Mr. Rajesh had said it takes time for any thing to move from table to table in Govt. offices / agencies. Even if the decision delays we may get retrospectively from April 2010.
Reg. disclosing private conversations (ref. the hot discussion with secretary) based on appointments with such ppl frm govt agencies… its not that easy/safe… I feel. At least fellow researchers like Amit ranjan and team do things… we just listen and comment. So they need to take time and compose a statement that wont be offending any one. So it takes time.
May be the partial motive behind willing to give appointments and maintaining clever silence / tricky replies in RTIs, I feel, is that RTIs can be disclosed in forums like this but not all the conversations based on appointments and even if disclosed they can claim that they meant something else as there will be no written evidence for discussions as in case of RTI.
So lets wait… (I am not bothered even if the final decision comes much later but implemented retrospectively frm April 2010 so that I get a lump-sum in arrears…
)
Hello Madam,
Implementation from Sept 2009… Not Apr 2010..
is it…. thts gr8.. but is it authentic? n i m male lol
Oh! Sorry For that…
Please check first RTI reply…
It looks authentic, but we all should wait and watch. Regarding CSIR-JRF/SRF I know the decision has been already taken about increase the fellowship from 12000/14000 to 18000/21000 from reliable source. don’t ask about source, i can’t disclose that…
Dear all,
I have a specific query. I am working on a project sponsored by DST. As the project was already sanctioned (march 2008) with the salary head @ 12,000 / 14,0000.. will they allocate more funds for such already sanctioned projects so that the people working can be paid the new revised (if done) scale retrospectively from what ever the date is?
Mr. amit we all know that it has increased, but now question is that when we get increased amount?
Dear Prithivi/all
It is sure that fellowship is going to increase and regarding project fellowship sponserd by DST fellowship must be increased but it will take more time than UGC/CSIR. But it is sure you will get revised pay scale.
Good luck
I understand the same Amit but I was wondering about retrospective payment of arrears i.e. say from sep 2009 – the date it will be implemented
Dear Vikas
Please upload the recent RTI reply as early as possible we all are eagrly waiting for that. It seems that this April 2101 will bring us some good results.
I am soory for mistake please read it 2010 instead of 2101.
The new Fellowships are started from 01/09/2009, it is sure. Possible date may be april 2010 as mention earlier, wait for the recent RTI reply
Thanx amit!!!!!!!!!!!
Is their any increament in fellowship…amit tell me.
Anjali
It is confirm that UGC/CSIR fellowship is going to increase, and that increament will be for JRF/SRF from 12000/14000 to 18000/21000 (basic)+HRA
Dear Amit,
Thanks to you, Vikas and all others who are doing these wonderful job on behalf of all the research fellows. Let us hope for the best and wait. I remember the last time in 2007 when the fellowship was increased Science & technology minister announced the issue. This time all the different bodies like UGC/CSIR/DST etc are taking it separately as far as I understand. Can you tell me what is the real picture…..is it same or different?
Yaah it is correct that all the different bodies like UGC/CSIR/DST etc are taking it separately, but decision must be same for all researchers. They can not distinguish. You can read some article above where CSIR has told that when UGC increase the fellowship we shall increase it. And the amount of fellowship for all governing bodies are same as JRF/SRF 18000/21000…………….
Dear Amit I could not open your recent post(at 8:55am. whether there is any technical problem with the bloading or any error.
vikas,
can u upload that 4mb report.please dude.
Indian,
I am getting some technical issues in uploading any file on net; will resolve it soon. Meanwhile i have sent it to you on mail. Do go through it and try to upload it if you want, on any file sharing site and leave a link here. Thanks.
Hae Vikas, Can u pl forward me also the file that u sent to Indian
hi vikas please forward me the file through the mail…..which you have forwarded to indian….
bye
Dear Vikas you just copy all text from your pdf file and paste here………..if you found any difficulty then u can send it either me or some one else where u want………..
Hi Vikas.
Please forward me also the pdf file that you have forwarded to Indian.
Hi Indian will you please forward me the mail that was sent by Vikas to you. My mail id is gd_20uk@yahoo.co.in.
please send me.
Thanks
hi amit/vikas
thanks for ur sincere efforts regarding fellowship…could u please tell me is it going to be implemented from sep 2009
Please Vikas forward me the mail at aniruddha82[AT]in.com
[Aniruddha, I have changed the format of your email to prevent it from being read by bots who look for emails to spam. Sent you the file too - Vikas]
Everyone,
Here is the 4 MB PDF uploaded on Google Docs (I’ll soon edit the post and leave the link in the body of the text as well). https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_93vuZtYypbY2RkNGM2YzQtZmQxZi00ZmU1LWJkNDUtYzQ3YWMzMzIwM2Jm&hl=en
Take care people, going for breakfast now.
hello sir, when this increment will come, how long time we have to wait,
whether this one is true or just a story,please reply me
when this increment will be implemented because of now march , so we have to send grant-aid bill, there we have to mention the amount of stipend, whether whatever getting rightnow or any new amount,still fifteen days only is there
Thanks vikas and amit
Every person related with these official proceedings of fellowship increment should at least once lead the life of a research student (of course in India) then they will understand the actual situation. We know some of them were research student once. At least they should not forget the situation and do as best as they can to do it promptly.
May be the fellowship will not be increased as soon as we are hoping. CGCRI, a national lab under CSIR has recently (12.03.2010) given ads for JRF and SRF recruitment and the fellowhips announced there seem to be unchanged.
see for yourself and comment :-
http://www.cgcri.res.in/doc/Adv_69_2010-03-15.pdf
They cannot write the increased amount unless it is officially announced. Once it is announced it will surely be revised….Don’t worry.
For that i can say that no one can notify increase amount without any notification by governing body. You can see all notification of government job before implementation of 6th pay commission and of course after 2006. The basic pay of all notification were same as in 5th pay scheme……….
Vikas has that pdf in this link plz see………
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_93vuZtYypbY2RkNGM2YzQtZmQxZi00ZmU1LWJkNDUtYzQ3YWMzMzIwM2Jm&hl=en
today this issue was answered at lok sabha, and they have made a 50 % percent hike for JRF and SRF, so it is going to be 21,000 for jrf and 23,000 for srf….
Mr. Krishna mohan, Are u sure…….what was ur source….
are you sure krishna mohan, whats the source
MR. Krishna Mohan,
If it is true please furnish details, any link of the source please!
Dear Krishna
50 % percent hike for JRF and SRF means increment in basic i.e., in JRF its 12000+50% more=12000+6000=18000 and in SRF its 14000+50%=14000+7000=21000
Mr.krishna, if your statement is cirrect means send me the corresponding link
First of all 50% of 14000=21000 not 23000…..Where did you the news Mr. Krishna Mohan……..Please don’t confuse us..
krishna mohan, please mension your sorce of information
Dont tell lie here, becoz some fellows are realy struglling on the behalf of all fellows.
You are right ramesh…..
The news is probably fake..Some people are just making fun of us. Please…… this is a forum for serious people….not for any fake news
The people like Krishna Mohan, always creates an obstakle for the creative people like Vikas, Amit and all others. We are requesting to you MR K MOhan Please do not make such foolish things.
Thanks
Hello Friend !!
I was just reading all conversations of Dr. T Bhramchari and our fellows. This is really pathetic how our planner think about research status in India. I guess he is forgetting his days of Phd. Scenario has been changed as well cost of living n everything. how one can compare with such a old days research status.I am too a research scholar in one of IIT in engineering stream and did a lots of project in various European universities but condition of research in pathetic and there no tranparency in system.
There atleast a RS get amount equal to what little experienced engineer get in Industry. Until goverment not increase fellowship and make lucrative , how they can attract youngters for research.
I think Research (and post doc)must be considered as short term profession by government not a university going student and must fixed up scales as per norms for Engineering in PSU And govt body. This only can boost research india not by just increasing number of seats.
Thanks for reading !!
Ashish
You people are doing a nice job.
At least in my institute all r with u.
You people are converging..
this is something interesting…
http://www.iiitd.ac.in/phd2010.php
Yes this is interesting but not surprising. Normally these projects involve foreign collaboration and/or participation of industry. All the IITs run many such projects in their engineering disciplines which leads to a PhD/MS degree at the end. But as far as the basic science (both theory/experiment) are concerned such projects are very very few. And the increased amount of fellowship has nothing to do with our regular UGC/CSIR/DAE/DST/ISRO/DBT fellowships. Hope these regular fellowships will also be increased very soon.
Our DG should remember his PhD days, but why should he??????
He and several useless people like him already get a pay hike thanks to 6th pay commission. Now, why shuld he bother about fellows ‘the main work force of scientific institutions’
Mr.krishna, if your statement is correct means send me the corresponding link
Dear MR. Vikas,
Are the JRF/SRFs who are not NET qualifed (ISRO, Dept. of Space Project) eligible to get the increased rate?
Dear Vikas and amit.
Good work. i really appretiate for each and every effort you are putting for all of us.
enjoy and keep updating as always.
We all are with you
Cheers
TOADY WHATS THE NEWS
whether its applicable for csir-jrf qualified candidate or all candidate
dear all,
i am a research scholar from B.H.U. and wish to seek information from you “updated” guys. according to ugc regulation june 2009 that students who have enrolled after june 2009 will have to do pre phd course work and only then their phd shall be exempted from “net”. What wiil the fate of those researchers who have cleared Resaerch eligiblity test and were enrolled in a central university before june 2009 and have not cleared net exam. is their phd exempted from net. please inform me about it.
thanks!
Dear Satya
I have read the guideline of UGC regarding exempted from NET. I think there is some miss confusion. Phd exempted from NET is valid only those student who has registered as Phd student either giving exam or exam with interview. This exam has been also done in D.U. Otherwise NET is compulsory criteria for all students. After the implementation of UGC regulation 2009 every student has come under these rule but selection committee can give relaxation under some specific circumstances i.e. if NET qualified student are not available or etc.
These are some points…….
3.3.0 The minimum requirements of a good academic record, 55% of the marks at the master’s level and qualifying in the National Eligibility Test (NET), or an accredited test (State Level Eligibility Test – SLET/SET), shall remain for the appointment of Assistant Professors.
3.3.1. NET/SLET/SET shall remain the minimum eligibility condition for recruitment and appointment of Assistant Professors in Universities / Colleges / Institutions. Provided, however, that candidates, who are or have been awarded Ph. D. degree in compliance of the “University Grants Commission (minimum standards and procedure for award of Ph.D. Degree), Regulations 2009, shall be exempt from the requirement of the minimum eligibility condition of NET/SLET/SET for recruitment and appointment of Assistant Professor or equivalent positions in Universities / Colleges / Institutions”.
Reference to Ph.D-s in these Regulations shall be taken as a doctoral degree from a University following the above UGC Regulations of 2009 regarding registration process, course work, and evaluation process with effect from the date of issue of such guidelines by UGC. The exemption from NET/SLET/SET will not be applicable to Ph.D degrees awarded by the universities who have not adopted and followed the above UGC Regulations of 2009, provided the Universities have adopted the guidelines issued by UGC
from time to time to accord exemption of the Ph.D. degree holders from acquiring a pass in NET/SLET/SET.
3.3.3 NET/SLET/SET shall not be required for such Masters Degree Programmes in disciplines
Holders of Ph.D. degree as on the date of Notification of these Regulations, along with those candidates who are awarded a Ph.D. degree through a process of admission, registration, course work and external evaluation as laid down in the UGC (Minimum Standards and Procedures for award of M.Phil /Ph.D Degree), Regulations, 2009 and so adopted by the university, shall be exempted from NET/SLET/SET.
NET/SLET/SET shall also not be required for such Masters Programmes in disciplines for which NET/SLET/SET is not conducted subject to the conditions stipulated in these Regulations in clause.3.3.3.
Dear Amit
Thanks for ur prompt response. But the doubts are still there. i would like to give you a case to analyse
1. A student who enrolled himself in a central university (B.H.U) after clearing “combined research eligibility test in the year 2007 when a P.hd degree was exempted from the NET/SLET.
2. He has not cleared NET/SLET till now
3. the University has inducted UGC 2009 regulation and he is not allowed to undertake the pre phd course work citing the reason that his registration is in the year 2007. (noteworthy is the point that the university has inducted the guideline
u.g.c. 2009 regulation)
4. the said student is about to submit his dissertation
in the situation cited above whether
1)the student’s ph.d is valid?
2)if yes, whether his ph.d. is exempted from NET?
please inform me about the above mentioned queries.
thanks and regards
Hello,
I thank Vikas, Amit and all members who has shared their news/views here except that “Indian”, a teacher? (useless fellow-I suggest him not to comment on public forums)I do not what he can teach at his college.
Okay, I think we can concentrate more on research rather than fellowship. I feel 12000 is more than enough to support our Ph D research career bcz fellowship is just to sustain our career in research. Researchers should feel happy that government is making a move in increment of fellowship. Thanks for their concern. Now let it take time to implement. If it is implemented then you will informed, may even encash more. Don’t think much about money, money is nothing to do with our research. Just think of fellowship in early days of Indian research (1500/1996???). I do not think quality of research will enhance with increase in fellowship. It could happen if government increase the available funds for research and if not delay the disbursement of funds. Pls see todays “thehindhu” news paper (science and technology section) to know how Indian research quality is? Japan, china, Australia are leading in quality research.
I am not blaming India but my intension is so many young researchers are involved in this discussion it may help to think in different avenue.
My contrasting opinion: We should not compare Indian government support to research with other countries. That may take us on different discussion. US and Europe is giving fellowship of just 2.5 times less than professors salary whereas in India it is 8.5 times less . I think this cause the brain drain to Europe or other countries. Therefore, if emolument to researchers increased it will help people who have financial needs. Hence, government can stop brain drain.
I am new to this forum, please forgive me if I am assertive in my views.
**please disclose your Identity, give your true names. what is there in it. we are in democratic India.
Gurumurthy G P, JRF
Dept of civil
Manipal Institute of Technology
Manipal 576104
First of all let me thank you for your comments. You view is fantastic no doubt. But I cannot agree with all you said.
Yes it is true that — “12000 is more than enough to support our Ph D research career bcz fellowship is just to sustain our career in research”. But researchers are not any creature from outer space. A man/woman at the age of 23-30 has also liabilities. Sometimes they have to feed their family, look after their aged parents. And also after so many years of education family also expect their support.
“Don’t think much about money, money is nothing to do with our research”—probably every researcher in India knows that i hope. That’s why they have come to this field of research. But at the end of the day you need money, so you cannot help thinking about it, especially in those days where daily expanses are so high.
Hope for the best.
Dear Gurumoorthy,
FYI this forum is for giving updates on the fellowship increment. This is not the place to discuss whether it is necessary for increment or not. Kindly dont spam with unnecessary topics. If you really wish to discuss on that kindly open another blog and leave the link as a related post… we will be happy to share our views.
Sincerely yours,
Prithivi Raj,
Dept of Chemical Engineering,
IIT Bombay.
Thanks for the comment.
yeah! That is what researchers should do na? We should not agree with others opinion/conclusions. We have to think our own.
For financial needs there are lots of career options.. IT.. business..SO ON… there also excellence is possible with good salary???
I agree “Researchers are not creatures from outer space” it is certain. What do you say about daily wagers working for 100rs/day? are not they living in earth? do not they feed/have their family?
In my opinion, people can live with small money provided knowing why they are in earth.
Again sorry for my assertiveness.
Gurumurthy G P
MIT Manipal
thanks to vikas gupta , amit singh fa a gr8 info , u guys are really doing agood jb
hello all,
i have gone through many a persons viewpoint that the amount of fellowship that is given in the current situation is quite enough to sustain the lives of the young researchers of India.
i certainly wish to differ to this view. the researchers who people often refer as young are not so young actually most of us are certainly over 28 or nearly 30 when we do our research work. and most obviously many of us are already marred or have to look up to our families. i know that the current fellowship being given out is much more than in 1970 or even 1990s. but think about this in a logical sense the value of 1 rupee in 1970 or even 1990s was not like today in those days the central government employees also got around 7 to 8k s only so the pricing of everyday goods was not like today when most of the government employee gets more than 50 to 70k.
so, before saying that we should concentrate more on our research than asking for our fellowship to be increased is a very wrong way of representing peoples opinion. all we want is some sort of parity and justice so that our hard work does not get washed away.
Surajit Bhattacharya
CSIR-JRF
Department of Biotechnology
IIT, Kharagpur.
i agree with surajit. i see my researcher friends, who are married, having tough times making both ends meet…………. authorities must fix the fellowships considering our qualification, age, labour and responsibilities.
we work day and night (our supervisor make us work on saturdays and national holidays also) and at the end of the month we get a pitiful amount.
And there must be a forum who cam talk on our behalf…..if we people don’t get the chance to lead a peaceful life by our own earning then how anyone can expect a motivating research work from our side?!! ……Surajit, may i ask you one thing? r u from IIT- ALPGE ?
HIIIII Vikas and Amit
any further news (good news) regarding the fellowshi matter. Please keep on informing us through this blog.
Thank you.
Dear Mr. Prithvi and colleagues,
I never said fellowship should be/should not be incremented. My intension was not to discuss that, however, tone was like that only. My intension was to say let the government to take decision. I am extremely sorry for my posts. Please be kind in ignoring my earlier posts. I could not find delete option in it.
I am happy to receive updates! keep me updated. Keep disclosing Identity!
Thank you all.
Gurumurthy G P
Can anyone please let me know whether the said increment is also valid for Research Associates(RAs), if yes how much they are going to get?
Thanks in advance.
Hi amit and vikas !!!
thanks for your great info reg the 6th pay for JRF/SRF etc… is it possible they will implement that by this april ..?
hi raja,
yes , iam sure that they will increase 18000/21000 for Jrf/Srf respectively but it will not be that much fastly implemented. It will take more than your expectation
dont write informations and qries other then hike in fellowship.
mr.rancho.nice information , you are having any evidence for this information
Here is a suggestion for all budding scientists.
NATURE NETWORKS FORUMS BY NATURE IS A VERY REPUTED FORUM/SITE FOR SCIENTIFIC DISCUSSIONS. YOU CAN OPEN AN ACCOUNT IN NO TIME AND DISCUSS THINGS AND NETWORK WITH PEOPLE IN THE FIELD. YOU WILL ALSO FIND MANY MANY USEFUL DISCUSSIONS HERE.
http://network.nature.com/
ALSO SEE THE BLOG OF THIS IISc PROFESSOR: http://nanopolitan.blogspot.com/ AND FOLLOW IT.
@ wave
yes i am. may i know who r u?
@ surajit
i am ur didi at kolkata…………….got it? keep updating.
Fellowship is likely to increase……………my supervisor was also hinting towards it.
I am giving to all information about increase in fellowship. In lok sabha this question for increase in fellowship was asked by SHRI M. RAJA MOHAN REDDY on Wednesday, February 24, 2010. Here is the link:
http://164.100.47.132/questionslist/MyFolder/24022010.pdf
Hi Madan, Very good information. Can u please give a link to the answers for those questions once you get the data pl
Where is the answer?
pls upload the answer for that questions …
Hey Vikas, Will u please disconnect me from this conversation.? How to discontinue receiving emails from this blog.? Plese revove my name from mailing list.
Use this link to manage your subscription. may I ask why you want to unsubscribe?
http://vikas-gupta.in/?wp-subscription-manager=1&email=gurumurthygp@gmail.com&key=052c38bc95f481a79255e9d3d9a69d64
Gurumurthy G P
Thanks for the link, Vikas, Gurumurthy.
.
I recieve e-mails very frequently now, as activity meter here has gone high. Also, there are things getting repeated again & again. People ask same “s..d” questions discussued earlier. Vikas n Amit Ranjan are doing real work there. Supporting them fully.
regards,
Amit, Pune
Dr. Ramasami, the secretary of Department of Science and Technology
(DST), government of India, is visiting IIT Bombay on Monday.
An open session has been arranged by Dean R&D’s office so that Research
Scholars can interact with Dr. Ramasami and discuss with him all their
issues and put forth suggestions for the betterment of the PhD programme
in general.
I am from IIT bombay….
Suggest me on what will you ask if you get the opportunity…
All logical and possible questions that will be posted here till say 12noon of monday will be asked as far as possible.
will post the outcome asap.
Identity changed for privacy.
Mr.rajeev, ask them, about fellowship, because now whatever we are getting thats not enough, so ask them, then,when it will be implementable,now a days everthing is so high rate
Mr.rajeev, ask them, about fellowship, because now whatever we are getting thats not enough, so ask them, then, it will be implementable,now a days everthing is so high rate
Hi Rajeev
That is a good opportunity for us to put forth our problems and recommendations.I think we must ask about some important aspect of Research status in India. Though now a days doing PhD in India is much tougher than in older days . This itself in some what way a good sign of improvement but we (Govt n we people ) must move in directions to meet international standard.That is possible only when a good number of opportunities will be provided under exchange programs in international specialized labs and R & D sectors.
As well further more i guess fellowship increment is also very important aspect to be discussed. Genuinely the present amount of fellowship is far lesser for married scholar living with family, as all of us can see how the prices of everything shooting up.
Cheers and lets wait for good outcome of discussion.
Ashish
Dear Rajeev,
1. Apart from discussing fellowship increment of JRFs/SRFs, you can also ask about RAs because they are most sufferers. I hope it is applicable to all researchers, if they increment, but just for confirmation.
2. Whether fellowship increment is only applicable to JRF/SRFs who has qualified through CSIR/UGC exams or for all researcher, students working for funded projects MoES, MoEF, CSIR, DST, DBT, ect.?
3. Travel support to Ph D students who are interested in attending conferences.
4. Exchange programs.
Thank you
Gurumurthy G P
Manipal
Rajeev,
Read the opinion of the CSIR DG and ask him whether he also has similar opinion. Ask him pointed questions if it is becoming of the CSIR DG to speak have such a disgusting opinion about research scholars.
Guys, I also suggest we write to some media groups about how our CSIR DG thinks and about the statements he has made!
hi guys !
..any new information?
Rajeev,what happened in that meeting
Dear Rajs the meeting is yet to start…. It is scheduled at 4pm so I logged in to see the final suggestions… will upload it by tonight.
ok rajeev , iwill wait upto tonight
sorry guys i have nothing to say…
Actually a talk by Dr. Ramasamy was scheduled from 4pm to 5pm and the open discussion was schudeled to be before and after that. I went late and when i was entering the talk was already started and after the talk there was some serious debate between IIT faculty and Ramasamy about research temper and so on… so finally he left claiming he will be late for his flight.
It seems there was a brief open discussions b4 the talk… and as always when students asked about hike he just said DST have recommended but we are not the deciding authority and cant say any fixed date for implementation…
So actually there is no actual update from me… i apologize…
May be others from IITB if any in this community who were present during the pre-talk discussion may tell exactly what was the open discussion abt etc
Rajiv any news from IITB
I am CSIR JRF,interested to know the updates about fellowship increment….thank you
Hi there!
This page seemed to be a great platform to request any of you to answer my queries. I cleared my UGC NET & JRF in June,2009 whose results were published on 14 dec.’09. I have been awaiting my Jrf award letter and Net certificate. Do anyone of you have any idea how long it will take to receive it?
Secondly, since i registered for M.phil for July-09-10 session already b4 the results were announced, i need my fellowship from atleast Dec.’09 onwards(date of result announcement). Can anyone tell me that will b able to get it since Dec.? And what i should do to initiate it as early s possible instead of just waiting for the postal procedure?
Thanks a lot Vikas and Amit for giving such platform
Priya.
Priya,
1. It usually takes about 4 months they say. So wait for some more time.
2. I have known people who visited the UGC when they couldn’t wait for the UGC letters to arrive. You can visit/call/RTI the UGC office if you want to and are irritated.
3. You get the fellowships from the day of the results of course.
4. If you live in Delih/around you will be from among the first set of people to receive the letters once they are dispatched.
Hope this answers your question.
vikas,
now close this page.tell everyone that it is not going to increase.one day these scholars will digest this ignorance.at least they will never hope for any support from the government.ministers will have their say as likely they do normally.they make promise so that they can break it.its their only duty through the ages in our motherland.
but thanks for this forum.
take care.
Mr. Indian,
our patience will achieve more than our force……..if we think and accept that stipend would never increase then we would never had a free and democratic India where u hve been given right to critisize our leaders….. u do your job and let them do theirs…..if then also u hve a problem why don’t u go and hve chat with them inspite of murmuring like this.
Thanks a lot Vikas for your genuine response……….I do live near Delhi and hope to get it early next month now. Wish you good luck and success in your life !! God Bless you.
The quality of basic research in India is very poor.The quality of paper is very very poor.So i think 12000/month for jrf 14000/month for srf is not very bad.Don’t think about Fellowship think about your work……….
AND Sibal your attitude towards this fact is far very very very poor.
its not that if we get 12000/14000 then we will not be able to do cutting edge research but its because of our genuine need that we r still sticked to it .
either u have a great financial support from your family & or can remain callous about the suffering of others .
sorry for the above lines ………..but your remark deserves it.
I think all who choose this field are very dedicated persons & none wants more than himself/ herself to publish a quality paper.
……………..” Before u criticize someone u should walk a mile in their shoes .that way when u criticize them u r a mile way & u have their shoes”
HI Sibal
did you ever try to qualify any national level examination like NET, GATE etc with good score. if yes , you would have never said above things for budding researchers in India.Clearing these exam itself shows brilliancy in the candidate and next level is just to hone their skills in research but poor quality of facilities and infrastructure create a negative environment. just for one simple example, a senior student joins PhD and receive his fellowship after in his bank account after 4-5 months, just because of fu…. paper work n bureaucracy and laziness of officials for students. You can not imagine how senior student feel ashamed asking pocket for that four months. okk leave thats just example, there’s a lot which we face in day -to day routine.
I guess when a peon and clerk could get more remuneration, why not Research scholars. Further more i would suggest this increment should be conditional basis, like stetting high standard for awarding PhD degree like high quality publication, patents etc.
Its just my views not any personal comment on any one.
Thanks for reading !!
Ashish
is this true? our fellowship is not increasing ??
fellowship must increase…..becoz if a idea comes it should be implemented…..otherwise frustation remains with us……if it is not increased, we will never belive in system…
well said madan. completely agree with you
please send me the latest news of the blog…….
I am completely agree with the comments on Sibal’s words by Ashish and IQ. Well said boys.
hi sibal,ashish & IQ.
first of all sibal, in your wordings a part of it is true. The research what we do is a bit low standard but not poor.
and IQ, yes i totally agree with you , we can concentrate more on R & D only if when are needs are satisfied.
and ashish, i know there will be alot of hardwork done by people who clears NET exams but where do you land after such hardwork, where your work doesnot get noticed. I think now when our central govt thinks of making a single grading system for all xth students all over india, i think for all researchers accordingly they need to keep a rating or grading (system) kind of thing based on our dedication and performance year wise or project wise. I sincerely think the positions jrf ,srf, RA etc.., will not show our efficiency level to outside world.
Dear Raghu and others,
Low standard is because of lack of state-of-the-art laboratory equipment and infrastructure and not because of researchers capability. Who will accept our papers where we followed outdated material and methodology (e.g., use of traditional AAS instead of advanced ICP-MS, is it possible for us to justify our methodology?). Who will accept our methodology?
Mr. Sibal, the problem is with the Indian government and facilities not with the researchers. I confidently say, on behalf of all researchers, we have the potential to do a research of high quality provided with state-of-the-art laboratory and infrastructure facilities.
Sibal, are you associated with any kind of research work? If not, please be associated with research at least for some time in a state government run universities. You will come to know how the facilities are? How researchers manage to finish their research with the use available facilities and funds? Do you know how long time will officials take to clear a single bill?
I feel researchers are giving excellent output with the use of available outdated facilities. You should appreciate Indian researchers!
Gurumurthy G P
hi all….
i fully agree with Mr. Gurumurthy G P….
I have some Question to all the Research Scholar …..
1.If Indian government increase the fellowship……… can any scholar guaranty to me that they will do good work ?.
2.If you qualify the NET and government should give enough money for that?.
3.How many product that we are use in daily life that come from our research?
……………………….
don’t mixed money and quality research.
Sibalji
nice to see your views…
plz follow this link to get the answers.. i dont wanna spam this blog by talking matters irrelevant to stipend hike but i created another blog.
thanks
no link is posted yet
http://is-indian-science-poor.blogspot.com/
For your kind informatiomn Mr Sibal ji,Let me know you one thing that many of the Scientists in research organisation are getting salary more than their expectetions, but wts their out put, they are weasting their time and govt money. But no one took any objection on the 6th pay commision. By d way where was you that time. research scholaras are only the persons who are working day and night and creating a platform for a valuable research. And people taking cradits of those work and getting heigher positions.
Indian reserach is still poor because of the people like you only.
Think about your such a foolosh mentality.
Prithvi,
please post the link.
Gurumurthy G P
Now please post only ‘genuine’ news and updates relating to Fellowship increase……
sorry i missed to post the link at the the first time.
I would suggest all those research fellows, who have problems with the better payment of research fellows in India i.e. who don’t think that the fellowship should be increased…..you refuse the increased amount when it is increased.
good comment fellow…..why people are not understanding that fellowship is not for personal expenditure, but for family….
Many thanks for the link. It is interesting.
I think nothing irrelevant discussion went on here. Whatever we discussed so far is just our individual thoughts on the forum topic. the discussion was not on life of celebrities but it was on researchers. We people have different opinions about the increment of fellowship. We shared that. What is irrelevant in it? However, the fact is one says (including me) 12000 is enough and I do not need 18000 once the fellowship is incremented.
The objective of all discussions about a particular issue is to catch the eyes of concerned people and to share our thoughts. is not it? My question is, what is the ultimate objective of this forum? is it just to get the updates of the file? If it is, you can have it on daily news also na? Why we are here? (I request VIKAS to answer these questions)
Is it possible for this forum to catch the eyes of people like Mr. Sibal(I do not know about him but his comments are really appreciable), if vikas and other people updating the file status only?
Some comments from fellow mates are really hurting.
The word ‘irrelevant’ is itself an…….
Gurumurthy GP
Dear sibal
So you feel that-
1. The quality of research in India is very poor.
2. What research scholars are getting is more than enough.
3. You need guaranty for good research if you increase fellowship.
As you are the on good post, you have power to take decisions and this power comes with some responsibilities (If you can think this also), I request you to know what you did till now to improve the same.
You say what research scholars are getting is more than enough, for this I would say try to end your month with that amount and you will come to know whether you are right or wrong. Think when in the end of month a research scholar is busy in thinking “from where should he take money for today’s dinner,” how can you think he can think about doing science? Even then I feel what ever they think, they do is good, but yes still it can be better.
You need guaranty of research work if Indian government increases fellowship?
So, where this question was at the time when Indian government has implemented sixth pay commission why you don’t ask this question at that time?
What we are talking about is fellowship we are not on TV shop, buying TV and asking for its guaranty.
Why you feel that doing science is mere responsibility of scholars? Actually this is typical Indian scientist like mentality, you are thinking in the same way as about 50% of scientist think, They believe that they got there post for being corresponding author only. It is the student who has to think about writing project proposals, it’s there responsibly to have found for their PhD and peoples like you are there to sign over it, that’s all.
I really acknowledge to those great scientists of INDIA who still take science as there carrier they feel that they are for doing science only and because of them only Indian science will roar once again.
hi all,
yes i totally agree with rahul….v r doing research right but at the end of the day v r human beings n hv emotions right?????? we also love to move in cars(as ours guides buy it every nw n then) hv dinners in gud resturants.okay acc to u fellowship shuld not increase then why not bring our guides as well to an equal platform may b 2 step higher…that may b enough to make the 2 ends meet or not….v r working day n night to prove smethng new and they r juz there to make corrections and changes….n mr GP u said u r not going to hv ur increased fellowship then i say please do keep ur words n prove it as well….n mr sibal for u i could only say there is no guarentee of man how can u ask for this then??????
its a humble request to u people please if u cannot help in this matter don’t dishearten others it hurts a lot…….
Dear Anshu,
A small correction. Sorry for punctuation mistake and’No’ is missing there. However, the fact is NO one says (including me) 12000 is enough and I do not need 18000, once the fellowship is incremented.
Gurumurthy G P
Hello All !!
Ohh there’s hot discussion going on regarding fellowship increment. Well i do not know Mr. Sibal but i would like answer all three questions asked by him as well one question from my side for him.
DID YOU QUALIFY ANY NATIONAL LEVEL ENTRANCE LIKE GATE OR UGC NET WITH GOOD SCORE?
If yes i would appreciate his views regarding research status in India.
If No, he should not be against fellowship increment.
As i have said earlier increment should be on conditional basis like setting up high standard publications n patent.Bi annually appraisal, more exchange programs in order to facilitate latest technologies of the first world.
ANSWERS
1.If Indian government increase the fellowship……… can any scholar guaranty to me that they will do good work ?
1. Yes definitely i will improve, if a major reform (including fellowship increment) is done in this area like i have written above and many more like facilitating better infrastructure and hassle free work flow n paper work, providing more opportunity to learn updated things from India as well from first world. Then definitely IT WILL IMPROVE A LOT RESEARCH N DEVELOPMENT SECTOR OF INDIA
2.If you qualify the NET and government should give enough money for that?.
I think most of government jobs require some kind of entrance examination as well interview, so as NET and GATE too, Doing PhD is like kind of working on deputation for 3-4 or more years. So how much master’s student is paid after clearing these exams , i guess lesser than a PEON (as per 6th pay). is this justified..??
3.How many product that we are use in daily life that come from our research?
I guess many of products we confront in day to day life. Do you know a lot of Indian guys working on Cancer and other disease medicine abroad, why because they do not have proper infrastructure and facilitation.There’s more examples of R& D sectors of different MNCs like GE, TCE etc where most of PhD student are hired for it and give a fruitful results. Then why not this during PhD because of lack resources and facilitation.
These all are my personal views not to hurt any one and respect views of others.
Lastly i would say to Mr. Gurumurthy , Can you afford to live nicely with family in 14000 Rs when prices of everything shooting up. If yes, i respect daring attitude.
Thanks for reading !!
Ashish
hey all it seems that u are thinking a lot about this, this is fa people who is againast to fellowship hike , some body says there should be no hike , sibal thinks reserach quality is poor in india, well sibal let me tell u some thing india ranks 9 in total of 140 countries in world , csir produces more then 300 phds every year , ur tube light, to biotvs, computers, gadgets,even detregents , nano composites(pu sole fa making chappals came from reserach).all industrial products comes only from research nt from the sky.i donno wat u think but i personally feel reserach only can do a possible country.u think getting 12000 is more fa a jrfs there are lot of people who move to foreign and do reserach bz they can not clr that. so ur subordinates (in terms of knowledge gets good life fa simple reason leaving contry).dont u think this is in justice .the avg time reaserch works in lab is much more then the highest authortive bodies , even the pm of india. its nt boses that does diff but its students rather. our csir is not mediocare its considerble tougher , if so not why do foreign universitys like NUS give u admission on basis of ur gate score .
the people who work the most in this country are researchers. hw can people justify it they should nt be paid , i was a csir jrf,gate jrf
but still pay fees of 40000 every year in nit calicut. wat does i get fa my hard work hostel bill will be 2500pm so wat i get to hand is 6000
hw can u justify that my hard work deserves 6000 rs when a car driver gets 15000 pm .
i sincerly belive the fellowship has to be hiked, bz wat is on offer is detoring a lot of talent from comming to reserach.
all the above views are my personal ones. thanks fa readig this
small corrections india ranks 9 in reserach in world, csir produces 300 patients every year
ignore
ye kya krne lg gye ho tum log…….just get out from this blog…..
Dear Amit Ranjan and Vikas Gupta.
RTI ka reply aaya ke nahi???
Plz dnt argue with each other ..rather be united and appeal. The fellowship must be increased…and specially, there should be a significant difference in the fellowship slab of a research scholar and research associate. because after completng ur phd degree u r holding a postion, so, it should carry its own dignity…..
Gurmurthy and others,
I don’t think it’s Kapil Sibal here (it’s some other Sibal) but yes it seems like people of rank and importance are reading this page which is a good thing by all accounts. When I had published this post my aim was to provide information as that RTI reply was rather unknown among the students.
I do not have any updates at the present time. I will update this page as and when I get the updates. I am really surprised this page has about 300 comments now! I am around but do not come here to comment often thanks to lack of time. I understand it is a lot of pain for everyone as it is a frustrating waiting period.
I do not believe that the present fellowships amounts are enough for students but I do not have the time to elaborate my views or get dragged in the debate.
Fellowship presentlly is not as our standard and needs, so it should be increased as soon as possible.
sorry, iam posting this not related to hike but i found this very interesting.
i agree with raghu, i think there must be some unique grading or rating system for all researchers regardless of their departments. iam not comparing but every where this is starting ex: infosys iRACE.
If any kind of rating is implemented then the researchers who works hard and has interest to go places will be benefited and needless to say in turn it benefits our research departments.
Dear Vikas and others,
Thanks for the reply vikas. In simple words, I am not for or against fellowship increment but I am bit con….ed about those who says 12,000 is not enough for living. Friends, it is fellowship.
In my opinion, researchers should ask for fellowship increment in terms of justice/equality and it should not be relate to price rise or personal/family financial problems. The researchers are neglected in all aspects by the government either it may be in fellowship increment or facility, allowances and so on..? The government is increasing salaries of other sector employees as and when but it is not doing anything for researchers. We should highlight these things. These negligence, in particular, are mostly impacting the RAs than JRF/SRF who are doing Ph D. I am extremely concerned about RAs (their age…?)
Mr. Ashish, your comment on and question to Mr. Sibal are extremely good.I am grateful. But, mine is self satisfaction attitude not daring. Misconception!? Gods forbid, If the government is firm in their decision not to increment the fellowship what will you do? can you afford to live with 14000 money or not? Do you give up?
If a high rank people read some fellow mates comment, they will definitely change his mindset! See someone expressed his desire to have meal at costly hotel and buying four wheeler as and when. Myself, researcher, is not agreeing with it then who will consider? What is fellowship?
I request government to give justice to researchers and maintain the equality because we are the backbones of Indian research and it is not the professors. If India ranks 9 in world research ranking and CSIR is producing 300 patents/annum means it is the sole contribution of young researchers and not the professors who are getting huge salary. By considering these things government should accept our request. We are asking for justice and equality!
Completely my personal opinion. No more comments from my side.
Thank you all.
Gurumurthy G P
Be the change you wish to see in the world!-M K Gandhi
CSIR directors’ apathy towards students.. !!!
“AAJ KA BETA DAAL KA PAPITA”….. These are the novel words of our kind
and generous CSIR Director General and were said to a group of
researchers who just went to enquire about the view and the current
status of fellowship increment.
Dated 24-2-2010 , a group of researchers representing from 6 different
educational institutions namely JNU, NII, DU, AIIMS, MAMC and IIT went
to meet CSIR-DG Prof. Sameer Bhramhachari through an appointment, to
ask about what is the current status of CSIR regarding this fellowship
increase announced by UGC chairman Dr. Thurrat. Unexpectedly Prof.
Bhramhachari was also accompanied by Head of HRDG, Dr. Luthra and
shushila khilnani.
During the initial discussion with Dr Luthra, he told us that there is
a proposal of this kind but he was not willing to say more. On being
asked about the fellowship delay time that the student faces, he
explained about the work pressure on HRDG dept. due massive number of
affiliated institutions. He told that mostly the delay is on the part
of respective institutions and not by HRDG. According to him if an
institution is willing then it has enough money to pay our monthly
stipends.
When Prof. Bhramhachari arrives, the first thing he asked about was
“MUJHE KISI NE METHAI NAHI KHILAYI PICHLI BAAR JAB FELLOWSHIP BADHAI”.
True, we apologized. When we asked him about the fellowship increase,
he told that he personally feels that we are getting more than enough
money to sustain ourselves during the period of PhD. He is a good
speaker therefore he lectured us a lot about what was there in 1974
and since then. We listened. There were several hot arguments during
this discussion. On hearing that a group student had come, Prof.
Bhramhachari thought that we were some political organization. Hence
he first enquired from each of us that what institution we belonged
and what fellowships were we availing. Then on hearing the view of a
JNU student, he says that “WAHA PE TO SAB LEFT HAI”. Amit Ranjan (JNU)
asked Prof. Bhramhachari, showing the RTI answer copies from UGC, CSIR
and DST, stating that UGC has already announced the fellowship
increase but not CSIR. To this Prof. Bhramhachari said that CSIR-HRDG
is the main body that conducts the NET exam and it lends some of the
fellowship to UGC. Ofnote, he says that UGC fellows are lower in
merit. Gopal jee Gopal (JNU) when tried to ask about the transparency
in the CSIR system as they did not respond to any of the RTI questions
satisfactorily, Prof. Bhramhachari said “TUMHARA NAAM KYA HAI, BATAO
MUJHE, MAIN TUMHARA KABHI APPOINTMENT NAHI HONE DOONGA”. To this Gopal
jee Gopal said that “MAIN AISI JAGAH JOIN HI NAHI KAROONGA JAHAN PAR
SYSTEM TRANSPARENT NAHI HOGA”. Then Prof. Bhramhachari said “you guys
don’t study and always say that increase fellowship……I dare you if any
one of you could answer my question in your respective fields”. One
resrearcher from NII, Arun upadhyay accepted his challenge but as
expected could not meet the requirements of our CSIR-DG. Then one of
our other colleague ANIS(NII) said to Prof. Bhramhachari that “Sir, we
all are Indians and I will ask 5 questions about India and you will
not be able to answer any one of them”. Round and round discussion
went for about two and a half hours.
Outcome of this meeting are as follows:
1) There is an proposal to increase the number of fellowships in this
financial year i.e. 2009-10.
2) There is an proposal to increase the amount of fellowships in the
next financial year i.e. 2010-11.
3) If passed then we could get the increased fellowship from 1st
April, 2010 onwards.
4) Nothing is certain.
We appeal to all researches of India to put hands together on this issue.
I do not understand why are you posting this article again. This article has been on display since March 11, 2010, 5:43 pm. It is painful read this discouraging article again and again.
Hey Vikas
You are doing a wonderful work. I am a Research scholar(JRF)from university of Kashmir. Is ther any latest news regarding hike inn the fellowship.
SAP
Hi Guys
check out this link
http://csir.res.in/External/Utilities/Frames/aboutcsir/main_page.asp?a=topframe.htm&b=leftcon.htm&c=/csir/external/heads/aboutcsir/information_act.htm
and compare what a senior NET/GATE qualified scholar is paid for 3-4 years for doing research.
and as per current pay scales , we can not even compare with Driver, plumber,mistry etc, government should create some more lower post , so we could compare our remuneration.
just review March 2010 Month Salaries\
447 Sh Ram Niwas MISTRY 27508 Rs
448 Ms Reena Kaur CATALOGUER 26997 Rs
450 Sh Mohinder Kumar GROUP II(5) 29450 Rs
451 Sh Nawab Singh DRIVER 30636 Rs
457 Sh Matru Lal Gautam ELEC PUMP OPR 26472 Rs
458 Sh Sukhbir Singh ELEC PUMP OPR 21414 Rs
459 Sh Yashpal Singh ELEC PUMP OPR 26472 Rs
460 Sh Jai Kishan ELEC PUMP OPR 26472 Rs
462 SHRI B.M. SAHOO PLUMBER 22539 Rs
463 Sh Santosh Kumar Rout PLUMBER 21414 Rs
464 Sh Vijay Kumar PLUMBER 26472 Rs
466 Sh Ashok Kumar Saini CARPENTER 26472 Rs
467 Sh H P S Rawat DATA ENTRY OPR 21008 Rs
Thanks
Ashish
Dear friends,
I am watching a tendency among u, to compare researcher with other profession by using the term “even” driver, “even” plumber……We should respect every profession.Everybody have different skill and capacity.we are lucky that our parents tried hard to ensure our higher education, but every body is not so lucky. We are demanding more amount to fulfill the needs of our family & ourselves( so that we can personally subscribe journals, can go in workshops,seminars here and there, can take care of our health better which will ultimately improve scientific research). so, i request 2 all of u to avoid using the term atleast “even”……thank u.
You are absolutely right..
Hi Vivek & Fellow
It was just to show disparity in terms of remuneration paid to us. It doesn’t mean to hurt dignity of any profession. I have all due respect to all professions mentions above and for me, no profession is smaller or bigger , its just the hard work that make each individual respected.
Sorry if it hurted by any of my word, but it was show disparity nothing else.
Thanks
Dear ashish
thanks for collecting so much information and supporting the fellowship enhacement issue.besides fellowship enhancement,researchers are facing many other problems too.but they are very reluctant to fulfill their demand.i was coordinator of this fellowship enhancement issue.we called so many meeting at jnu,took appointment of DG csir,sec.,Asked quetion to ugc chairman regarding fellowship.we did not get expected support from researchers.we thanks to those who came with us.we conveyed our anger and dissatifaction to DG csir,dst sec,and ugc chairman with support of that few people but we couldnot compell them for early implimentation of recommended amont of fellowship.i would like to request concern people to join ‘Research scholar of indian,group on gace book and convey your message be united for solving our problem.
with regards
gopal jee gopal
special centre for molecular medicine,JNU.
I understand your point regarding the comparison. But this comparison probably cannot be made for research scholar with all others. Research is such a profession where in most of the cases you can do the job in the way you like (of course interference of supervisor sometimes good sometimes bad is involved) and you are paid for this. On the other hand any 10-4 office staff has to do what he is assigned for, and maintain the routine of process of doing work(funny thing is that only a few do that). Only different case is that of teachers. They have freedom in their work to some extent.
So there will be so many opinion against us if we just demand that “their salary is higher….why not ours??”. As far as I believe our demand should be very simple…The daily living cost is increasing fast, we have our liabilities, so increase the fellowship so that we donot have to think about income everytime…and we can work in peace.
Both ‘Ashish’ and ‘Fellow’ have raised valid points. Ashish is absolutely right when he compares and we see that since September 2008 a ‘Safaiwaala’ gets more remuneration than a JRF/SRF. But ‘Fellow’ is also right because Safaiwaala is a JOB, while JRF/SRF/RA is nothing but TRAINING. Safaiwaala gets SALARY, while JRF/SRF/RA gets STIPEND. Salary is ones right, while stipend is not. JOB means responsibility and accountability towards work (at least legally), while a TRAINEE is legally not responsible for outcome of work done- he is just a trainee.
So, most of the problems faced by ad-hoc laboratory workers (JRF/SRF/RA) is simply because their ‘work’ is not considered as work but a training assignment. So, they will always be at legal disadvantage and their problems are not going to solve for ever. Even if stipend is increased this time, their remuneration would never move in line with Safaiwaala, clerk or any other EMPLOYEE. A government employees’ SALARY automatically increases 3 times in a year (2 DA hikes and 1 annual increment) while JRF/SRF/RA stipend is revised in 3-6 years, that too after much brouhaha. So, this gap could never be filled.
So, ad-hoc laboratory workers should campaign for recognition of their service as real WORK to be compensated by real WAGES.
Here is some information not related to this issue.
I recently bought more than 120 books online from flipkart.com
Read this post for review/pics/suggestions if you want to buy books online sitting in your home/lab http://vikas-gupta.in/2010/03/27/having-bought-120-books-i-recommend-flipkart-com-to-buy-books-online-india/
if a person can avil ugc fellowship second time after complition of first Ph.D.
UGC NET now accepts online applications! See the site http://www.ugcnetonline.in/
Not interested
The MHRD and Finance ministry should resolve the matter as soon as possilble and friends, we people should be united to get our rights as Professors/Scientist are getting more than what was expected. then why the injustice with the scholars.let us make a joint forum. It can be named as National Resarch Scholar Association. The responsibility of those who are in national capital increases and are requested to meet
Hon’ble MHRD MINISTER SH. KAPIL SIBBAl.
PRESIDENT
Himachal Pradesh Research Scholar Association
Department of Biotechnology
HP UNIVERSITY
SHIMLA
Mobile:09418232858
isuppose wat chandra kanth sharama says is right, most of phd scholars in this country who are living with frustration, the problems strats from inadequate facilitys to giving fellowships and bosses beurocrcy
as responsible citizens of this country we need to end this beurocracy thats bleeding inidan reserach, we neeed some body to represent us and our voice has to be heardi sincerly plead all of u to think of it once
Dear frnds
We r group of 4 JRF working in DST sponsered project from 2007, our stipend was revised in april 2007 from 8000 +HRA to 12000 + HRA but still we are getting 8000 + HRA, as DST has not released the increased money,its almost 3 years and we have pending amount of 2 lakhs Rs, many times leter has been sent to DST but till now we didnt get any reply from DST. can some one suggest how to approach DST for release of increase funds.
thank you
What is your supervisor doing ???????? He should write to DST..
he wrote once by email ,they replied they will give but its almost 3 years now and he dont want to do anything further. he is not cooperative,now we have to something.
It is really frustrating that u are not getting the increased fellowship till now when we are talking about another increment. But in my view it is not good to take the matter solely on your hand, since at every step of getting a grant a strong involvement/participation of supervisor is necessary. Hope you also understand that. Ans any governing body will not entertain you unless your guide is there. So in my opinion, whatever the relationship with him may be try to pressurize him. Its difficult but is the only way out. In the meantime you can apply for some RTI etc. But it will always be a strongpoint for you if the “BOSS” is there.
Hope for the best for you guys.
You are right but how long we can wait, he dont want to take any action, even when we asked him last time he told “Dont bug my head” its very frustrating now. we are planning to fill RTI but if we ask him he will never allow as to do that as he has his reputation concern with DST fellows.
hii ,
i wana ask tat if im working as a lecturer on adhoc basis..n i hv cleared my net n JRF too …den wat next would be my step??? i mean should i continue my lecturership in the same college if they allowed me or shd i go for PHd??? cos it is said tat ur nt suppose to work while doing ur phd is tat a myth or its true?? plz suggest me or guide me genuinely.
waiting 4 ur comments ..
You obviously should go for PhD, since you have qualified for JRF. otherwise you can miss the bus. You can come back to lectureship after PhD with better opportunity/salary etc. As far as the new UGC regulations are concerned doing a PhD and a job parallel is impossible.
Look, very few of the total students can clear NET, u are one of them so take and utilize the opportunity.Otherwise you will mourn in future. After 28 you are not eligible for JRF. And good Professors will not take you as his/her fellow if the gap between your MSc and beginning of research is higher.
If you were working as a permanent position then the situation would be different. Now I think that doing a PhD will be a shift from one Adhoc job to another with higher and better possibilities.
Anyway you didn’t mention whether your college authority will make u permanent faculty or not, and your current salary structure, whether it is less/higher than JRF’s.
Best of luck.
One small thing that I forgot to mention even you want to do a PhD with your job parallel, you have to do course work and all other things that are in the new UGC regulations. And you canot apply for the fellowship then.
Anu,
It depends upon you what you want from your life? But continuing lecturereship with Phd will help you lot in your carrier and challenging . There are provisions under which you can do both.
But if you want to do research only and your age allow you for that then try to crack competition of good instiute of your interest and try to achieve your dream.
Amit Ranjan.
dhhgcy
Hi,
Will the engg phd students also get increased stipend of 21k? (i mean if increased)
is there any good news for us from csir?
what happened…………its first april……..increased or not ?
tomorrow april , so whether announcement will come or foolish us by april first
Its not a film release, dont expect the increment near by
As the increment is not happening by tomorrow (April 1st), the next possible date is September 1st. So, till then we should just relax and continue doing our research…..
Dear Akhilesh
Please write a letter to Dr. Vinod Kumar in DST about your problem. Please also demands 14000 after two year research experiance and claim as SRF. May you write me the duration of project. Are you working in same DST project from joining? Its the problem of your Boss really. He should talk them in next project progress presentation in DST evaluation commette. But do not confused and talk your boss openly.Kahi aap ki grant hi kam to nahi aa rahi. Please keep the contact with Vinod kumar (DST)
Offcourse we will get the incresed salary. But its not easy procedure for all govt. agencies to do these thing so fast. So wait and watch.
These So called politicians like Mr. Kapil Sibal and Prof Brahmachari ( though he is a scientist by profession) are enjoying salary above 1L and the original researchers like us are surviving on mere 15600/-.
I have a solution: Please Read It Carefully.
Lets all bring out observation books and have a bonfire at JNU or IARI.. which one suits all of us. Let all the research go to shit.
When we can work hard and pass exams like GATE and NET then we can excel in any field.
Lets Burn this corrupt fabric! Let us all piss on their face and drain this hole system to shithole.
And I challange Dr. Brahmachari that pit any PI with his SRF regarding their ongoing research and whoever wins swaps the salary with other! ARE YOU READY Mr. Bramhachari to compete with your SRF (If any)??
And about me …I am moving to private sector as I couldnt get my leg operated after an accident with this stipent..and I dont want to face the same situation in future…
I am Waiting for your and Mr. Brahamachari and Mr. Sibal..If you have got those balls then face me …Lets have a talk…
Sorry for few mistakes !!! I was infuriated…and typed fast…But I hope you get the gist of it!!! The challenge is still open!!
hi guys ,
though not about fellowship increment I want some kind information from u folks .
I came to know from todays newspaper that HRD has ordered UGC TO ANNOUNCE NET /SET AS MINIMUM qualification for the appointment of assistant prof in colleges without implementing its previous stands.
………….is it true ??
if yes then what will happen to those who r doing Ph.d, according to UGC new cirrcular regarding course work etc., after qualifying GATE / JEST /NBHM AND OTHER NATIONAL LEVEL EXAMS .
And what’s the fate of those who had already completed their Ph.d s
even before UGC new regulation ?
…once again I would like to mention that though this dias is ddedicated to the information regarding fellowship increment I FIND NO OTHER WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH U guys ……………plase post if u any news regarding it.
Those who are doing phd or has completed it…should move out of this country…If they want to support their family….they must look for better paying jobs..Let brahamachari and Sibbal handle the research on their own….Go ABROAD …LIVE LIFE TO FULLEST…
Don’t get so frustrated friend. Always hope, because “hope is a good thing maybe the best thing, and no good thing ever dies.”Always keep hope.
Mr IQ you are right … this is the link for the order from HRD to UGC. This page from TOI today.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/HRD-Dont-exempt-anyone-from-NET/articleshow/5744155.cms
thanks a lot Girish…..but still I am confused as the report didn’t describe it clearly.
Any good news today
Hi.
Ist. April is over. Has MHRD come up with something regarding enhancement in the fellowship. IS it that all of us have been befooled?
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Hii,
Is there any update about the CSIR fellowship?
Hello,
Sorry for the cross posting!
Can research scholar apply for AICTE travel grant to attend international conference? Which are the funding agencies give travel grant to research scholars?
Thanking you in anticipation
Gurumurthy G P
JRF MIT
Guru I am not sure about AICTE. But DST and CSIR give travel grant for case on case basis for international conference. check dst.org and http://www.csirhrdg.res.in/tg.htm for details..
But ya the number selected may be less…
cheers
Prithivi
sorry frnd i think my indian goverment has donated all money to improve afganistan infrastructure and to bangladesh minister s.k. hasina above 1 bln. dollar to improve relationship…..now they are trying to purchase some advance fighter plane from russia…how can we expect about the fellowsp increament….?? sibbal is busy to import foreign university….these are knowledgeable illiterate people they dont know how to improve our own science and technology….education system….lets see when and how much..???
I am student at IIT M. Is there any CSIR fellow who worked as student here at IITM. I want to know about the procedure for commensement of fellowship amount… I am badly in need..
Friends I heard from one of my friend that yesterday there was a meeting of UGC members at IISC regarding the fellowship hike. But I could not get any further information. But it it is sure that a meeting was there.
Keep on post.
ok grisg, ask your friend about further information
i think the meeting could be for the hike in number of fellowship not amount of fellowship…..
no..it may be regarding fellowship only
dear nitt u will have alot of people in iitm
with csir u can consult ur seniors i supoose they can help
u
thanks
Hi Guys !!!
1 April 2010 is over as well 1 April 2015-16-17 and so on will also be over and nothing gonna happen with government of India or research scholars in India. It’s better to try to finish your PhD as soon as possible and get scientific job in India and start doing bureaucracy.
There what present elder generation of PhD awardees doing in India. In other words, all new research is on shoulder of generation ONLY. They just like to corruption bureaucracy and paper work that’s all. And one more point, I would like to mention , after getting job in scientific institution, lick the feets of corrupt politician to get a favour to achieve to a bureaucratic job advisor of being scientific council etc and stop research.
That would give you more POWER and MONEY, which is main AIM of our elder scientific community. I wish to GOD our scientific elder should like who create history in terms of research n guide to younger generation.
Thanks for reading!!
Ashish
Hi Guys
I think the Govt. Of India should atleast assure us as to what is their dicision regarding increment in fellowship. Two questions.
when are they going to implement and how much would be the fellowship.
Giving the arriers late by about a month or so is not a problem
but assurance is a problem.
Its long since it was being first disclosed on 18th of august 2010 Hindustan times.
now new financial yrs.(april)started but there are no such news about fellowship hike….thats mean up to next financial yrs. there are no chance of hike…..so frnd lets forget about this….it will be better if we try for other jobs…or lets try to foreign institute(1st yrs. and 2nd yrs.)….and yeah i have read the lecture given by our prime minister last day in pune NCL….he wants indian reseach sholar to be more innovative and announced this upcoming 10 yrs. as year of innovation in india….dont he know whats the ammount the goverment give us??? because he has done his ph.D most probably from OXFORD thats why i think he dont know what injustice is taking palace with indian research scholar….
I am persuing Phd in Hindi from Hp university shimla. Iam a Rgnf holder. fellowship is increasing or not to Rgnf scholars, kindly inform me. iam availing a fellowship only for four years,if i extend my research work for one year. i can get fellowship for five year.
i quite,,,,,,,,
Dear Amit/Vikas,
Please update us with the current situation of Fellowship Increment.
http://kapilsibalmp.com/contact.aspx
Hei guys this is the link to the official website of Kapil Sibal, here we can post our query about the stipend hike.
You can try this but probably it will do no good. I have already done it twice 15-20 days before but still no reply
He may not reply, but, if everybody start posting he might realize the importance of the mater. I dont know…. just a wild hope.
Yes right, keep petitioning them. Let them be flooded with our mails. Also write to the president of India here http://helpline.rb.nic.in/
And write to UGC chairman, CSIR chairman and others. Let them read our mails all the time!
The senior old guard of science in India sucks. There are so many faculty members in India everywhere that exploit students and researchers in so many ways (you know what it means)!!!!!
It is his email address, kapilsibal@hotmail.com. It is there in one of the conversations in his site. Can we send to his email address? Reminder (twice a week?)!
Gurumurthy G P
Why not we all the research fellows in India as much (as we can reach) sign on a common letter and send it to The Honorable President, prime minister and cc to Mr kapil Sibal, Finance minister and so on. I mean a doc file with all of our names and affiliation there. I mean everybody can put his/her name and forward it to their research scholar friends. After 1week or so the final copy will be sent to the president, PM.
Very good idea. We can do that, first we will write a letter and send it to at least one student of all the research institutes, IITs and universities. After getting there names and affiliations we can send it to respective persons.
Very good idea. let us make a doc file and attach that to this blog.
every one can sign with their details and then forward to the concerned individuals.
Great idea.
Please initiate.
is it really true that NET/SLET wont be exempted from those who already are awarded PhD
guys….its very good idea to send emails to mr. sibbal. I have sended the message to him as well as posted on president’s website….keep sending until it reaches 1000…
Dear All,
I am quite happy to inform you all that DST has announced their revision of emoluments and revised guideline for the research fellowship.
Plz visit the following link(DST web site) for details:
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/main-new.htm and then click the “DST Research Fellowship Enhanced”.
See this It has increased finally I think:
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B3AWm-KaAYgEMTdhZDJhODMtNDJmNi00NDkyLWFlMTMtMWVkOTM2ZDQ4NTRh&hl=en
but I am not NET qualified, getting 14,000+HRA,(from DOS; Department of Space) and is in third year of my research.What will be my fate?
I am not sure that it is authentic. its not there at DST websites the way other DST OMs are hosted there.
did anybody call DST office?
congrate to all……
This Cheating by Government. Earliar they said that fellowship will be 18 and 21k But now they have announced only 16 and 18 k.
Absolutely Cheating by Goverment.
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new10/fellowship10.pdf
Also the date is from 1. 4. 2010! What a shame! Fortunately it says UGC and CSIR can follow the guidelines.
where is the 50% hike…huh….
anyway,, cheers to all!!!!!!
Cheers DST fellows !!!!….
dun no wat is da fate of UGC?
hi!!!!!!
is it really true……..what about csir-jrf is it applicable to them also
This DST Memorandum is highly ambiguous and a bad news for non-UGC researchers.
1. While UGC JRF and SRF are 18,000 and 21,000 respectively, non-UGC JRF/SRF will get lower stipend of 16000 and 18000.
2. While UGC JRF/SRF will get arrears from 1st Sept 2009, non-UGC JRF/SRF would receive enhanced stipends from 1st April 2010.
Please note that UGC has given above information in writing under Right to Information Act 2005, hence it cannot backtrack from it, lest it would become illegal in a court of law.
3. The memorandum says that fellowships has been hiked only for NET qualified JRFs and SRFs who are registered for PhD. It is completely silent about stipend of non NET qualified and/or fellows who are engaged in projects and not registered for PhD
4. (i) 2 point of memorandum is ambiguous and it seems there is a typing error and the word NOT between who have…and…NET qualified is missed by the typist. Otherwise points (i) 1 and (i) 2 are semantically same. Both pertain to Post graduate degree holding JRF/SRF registered for PhD with NET qualification. Same qualification, but different stipends. How come?
5. Raw deal for RAs as they were expecting a 50% hike as indicated by UGC. It would be interesting to see, if UGC RA is now increased by 50% or follows DST guidelines. Please note that UGC had not given in writing the new rates for RAs.
hi Mr. Bharatiya ,
where you got this memorendum of DST ….is it available in their site
please give the supporting link….
Mr.Bharatiya you are telling fellowship is different for Net and non-net students,they didnt mentioned in OM,then how you are telling, pls answer me
A correction.
1.Please ignore # 4 of my previous comment. There is no typing mistake in OM. Point (i) 2 of memorandum seems to be about NET qualified students who have not cleared JRF exam, who are not Project JRF, but registered for PhD. Such students would get a lower stipend of 12000/14000.
2. OM is NOT silent about non-NET qualified candidates. On its first page (last but one para) it is clearly written that earlier provision of engaging non-NET candidates as JRF/SRF is withdrawn.
So, non NET candidates CAN NOT be given JRF/SRF position in govt funded projects and hence no mention about their stipend in this OM. But please note that non-NET candidates can still be engaged as ‘Research Assistants’, about which DST has given revised guidelines recently (available on DST website)
The memorandum has 2 good points!
6. One good point for RAs: This memorandum has exempted their stipend from Income tax under Section 10(16). More take home stipend!
7. Another good point: All fellows upgraded to 2nd AC travel entitlement from previous Sleeper.
hi bharatiya,
is this applicable for csir-jrf as well…plz tell me
well
the pdf fellowship10, though released by DST, it clearly says “This OM is applicable to the research personnel working on R&D programs funded by the central government departments / agencies” (read the line just before the table for JRF in the first page). Does this means it is applicable for all departments / funding agencies? I hope so because so far there were no difference in the stipend / fellowship between different agencies.
Also regarding 2nd AC fare there is absolute confusion for me. it says travel entitlement will continue as before i.e. 2nd AC. but before it was 3rd AC i guess. (In my institute they provided me with 3rd AC and I am a research scholar only. But general government recomendation may be sleeper as mentioned by a fellow researcher)
DST is directly under the Ministry of Science and Technology, Government of India. DST gives the guidlines for all the bodies like CSIR, UGC, DBT etc. You can see the point no 12 in the OM.
This clearly indicates that what ever is announced by DST now will be the final for all the governing bodies like CSIR, UGC, DBT Etc. They have to follow the guidline of DST. And cannot give more than that even if they have announced before. So I think this is final for all…
Link of OM :http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new10/fellowship10.pdf
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/main-new.htm
U r r8 Mr. Rajesh but i differ a bit… DST in UNDER GOI Ministry of S&T but CSIR n UGC are autonomous bodies. So its not that they must follow. The ponint just says “may follow” and not will / must follow.
But the fellowship for various Ph.D.s will be same… we will be discriminated only whn compared to the sweepers n safaiwalas but we wont be discriminated among ourselves i.e. all researchers will get the same fellowship unles funded by pvt bodies / foreign univs.
This is How DST makes guidlines for the all schemes of Central Government Departments/Agencies:
General Information on Research & Development Funding Schemes of Central Government Departments/Agencies
http://203.200.89.92/dst/r&d_funding/rdfs.htm
DST Gives guidlines to these institutes and by following these guidlines these institutes issues their own OM. This is the Process.
Recently given guidlines can be found at-
http://203.200.89.92/dst/stsysindia/rdfs1.htm
DST reviews these guidlines time to time and keep updating it.
shameless Indian government…as always like to harass qualified persons in every aspect…nothing surprising…nothing new…this is the biggest cheating by our gov..and we have nothing to do without accepting it happily…thank you.
Dear friends
these old generation scientists who got important and responsible posts in a noncompetitive environment do not understand the real problems. What they really do is to ride the shoulders of students and enjoy salaries and timely promotions.
You know, a dog is always fed better than a bullock or a horse although the latter is more in terms of worthyness. Let us just forget about being horse/bullock of indian research, they treat us like donkeys who should be paid less otherwise we could support our self or our families. unfortunately, they do not realize that, in our prime twenties, we ( the kids doing PhD…. as they say !)also have responsibilities and passions to fullfil. so any hope from these dumb headed people is not there anyway.
They cry when all trained brain from India seeks to work abroad after a poorly funded PhD and bakwaas projects in India. A shame to the system.
I am not sure that the OM from DST is real or not. even if it is true, the amounts given there in the OM are less than what a fucked up BSC pass tech assistant would get in central gov. jobs. just think we should be paid equivalant to entry level salary of a scientist B, as the qualifications are same.
I just hope we all wake up and make this loud that GOOD RESEARCH COULD COME ONLY IF THE WORK HORSES OF INDIAN RESEARCH ARE FED WELL.
Mr. YK
U R RIGHT BOTH IN LANGUAGE AND IN LOGIC .
Mr YK you are absolutely right. Unfortunately many (almost) research students don’t know what we should have and what not. Do you know how these sleeping people will arise?
is there any differeNce IN stipend for NET AND NON-NET STUDENTS
can some one say whether this fellowship is applicable for people working under projects funded by DAE-BRNS. What if the project fellow does not have cleared NET
HIIIII,
Congrats to all dear friends.
Dear Firends,
Fellowship is just one aspect. The problem of researcher is more in some institutions. The research fellows are divided into various category.In my opinion there should be only 3 categories one is JRF,SRF and PDF. All of them should be given:
1. Separate room in Hostle.
2. Medical Fund/Medical chek up after 3 months each.
3. 50 thousand contigency.
4. 30 days leave in a year.
5. Laptop free of cost by the host institution.
6. Meal Free of cost.
7. The SAP and NON SAP Meritorious fellowship should also be equal to Rajeev Gandhi Fellowship.
8. Instead of giving Rajeev gandhi Fellowship the no. of NETJRF SHOULD BE increased to and should be merged with CSIR_UGC_NET.
9. there are only 8days leave in a year to ICAR-fellows they should be given leave atpar with UGC.
10.On the pattern of Europe person having spouse should be given special allowance.
Chander K. Sharma
PRESIDENT
HIMACHAL PRADESH RESEARCH SCHOLAR ASSOCIATION
HPU SHIMLA
MOB. 9418232858
EMAIL:chanderk.sharma@yahoo.ca
I wanted to hold a seminar on problems of the Indian researchers in Shimla.Where I want Mr. Sibbal as a chief guest so that the the sufferer and the resolver can meet each other face to face.
Chander K. Sharma
PRESIDENT
HIMACHAL PRADESH RESEARCH SCHOLAR ASSOCIATION
HPU SHIMLA
MOB. 9418232858
EMAIL:chanderk.sharma@yahoo.ca
Hello Chander Kr. Sharma
Iam in your support but the politicians are not bothered about the problems of the research scholars they are more serious for their progress and development.
Sanjeev Kr. Chaudhary
Chairman
Society of Young Scientists (SYS)
All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS)
Ansari Nagar, New Delhi-110608
Mobile No.-91-9868636871
Please find the enhanced fellowship for Research Scholars 16000& 18000 for JRF and SRF respectively WEF. 1-04-2010 http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/main-new.htm
can someone answer my query,I am UGC JRF (June 2009), i send required documents to selection and award bureau UGC 2.5 month before,i have not received award letter yet. how much time it will take to receive award letter and fellowship.if any contact no available, please give. thank you for this platform.
it will come soon Aravinda…
generally it takes 3months…at least for me it took
thank you niladri
When will CSIR come up with such an OM
Please tell me the fate of Non NET qualified candidate with Post graduate degree in basic science.I am one among them, currently in ISRO project working as SRF (completed 2 years as JRF) with felllowship 14,000 + HRA.
You will get it surely. Just inform your project leader about the increment and tell him to do the necessary things to release the additional fund. It may take 2-3 months time but you will get it and effectively from 1st April 2010.
Dear Fellow,
How can you be so much confident?
Hi friends,
Congrats to all and let all of us Thanks Vikas and others involved in this matter.
WHETHER this increment applicaple to CSIR-JRF OR NOT,WHEN CSIR RELEASE THE OM
wait and watch…….this line is made for researchers.
ok but, now financial year is started , we have to send grant-aid bill so we dont know how much
hello everybody now we should think about poleticean,how can we increase thr sailry b/s they r running this country
thease shameless politicain dosnt thik about us
Hello sir jo mila wo UGC ka dan samajh kar le lo. Isme tax bhi nahi hai.
Jai ho UGC. Bhala ho Bangali Dada(Pranab Da)ka. It is the only country in the world where politicans decide their own salary. Research Scholar kis khet ki muli hai.
tum chaho to tax bhi de do yaaar……………
Hell evry one
I am working as JRF in csir funded project.I want to know about one important thing that i have already more than two years of research experience and want to claim for SRF, is there any provision for conversion of JRF into SRF.
Ya priyanka, u are very much eligible for CSIR-SRF. U can get the details from CSIR-HRDG site. For SRF u should have atleast 2 years research experience and research papers to ur credit. Also, for ICMR-SRF research papers are not necessary.
I want to Know whether DBT-JRF would also be increased or not.
A lot of debate is currently on whether our fellowship is enough or not? Of course it is not enough. And also it is not even that much that was promised by UGC as some of the previous RTI shows. Anyway some amount is increased and we should welcome that. Of course my special welcome goes to those fellows who have initiated petitioning RTIs and meeting the officials etc etc. Guys lets give a big CLAP for them.
Now as far as our fellowship is concerned I think the government is taking advantage of our situation. Let me explain this:
No research fellow will ever tell “I will stop thinking innovative ideas and not do any scientific thing if I am no paid this much amount of money?” can any of you just go to the lab and just sit there and do nothing if the fellowship is not increased? It is the urge from inside that we the research fellows are cultivating from generation to generation that keep us busy in doing work…good work..whatever may be the negligence of the top authority. And the so called top officials of the government also know this. They all are taking advantage of this. I bet they should envy us, although we are paid nothing compared to them just because our thinking is high and despite of their constant negligence we are doing good and will do better in the days to come.
So let us not feel low in mind. at the end of the day when you go to sleep you can say yourself “look I have at least thought something new today.. “…I bet none of our bureaucrats can think at least for one moment like us.
I want to end with a tagline from google scholar “Stand on the shoulders of giants”…guys we are the giants….We will continue to do good.
Cheers.
Dear Vikas and Amit,
Where have you gone yaar? Kuchh to boliye.
Aniruddha,
I am here busy like anything. Keep discussing among yourselves people. I wrote to
amit too, seems like he is away or busy. Some things are happening better late than never. I read every comment here but have no time to participate.
B. Praveen Reddy, RTIs are by Amit and others, thank them.
Somebody start a forum on Google groups. We have a lot of people here and some 400 comments! That means people from more or less from all over India representing almost all institutes. It will be good if this doesn’t go waste. I wish I had the time to do it! Even a facebook group or new Orkut community can be started or a Ning forum.
hello every body, finally the fellowship hike is comming ,
i agree with fellow we can not live a moment with out thinking , but ur thinking will be diversed with finaces, that was the problem india has from alot of time ,a reserch scholar affter becoming a fculty forgets research and thinks of adminstartive potisions, that makes research reputation get sufferd , a management guy can better do the job y to waste ur skill fa that . the reason is sinmple finaces killing your passions , atleast as moral citizens of this country lets stop this tradition , MILLIONERS GETS MINGELD IN CROWDS BUT SCEINTISTS REMIAN AN UNTOUCHABLE COMMUNITY. all of us will keep this in mind .there are atleast some good proffesors in this country who belives sceince is a passion , its undobutdely because of them we are geeting skill in this country let all of us extend this tradition .this is from our part to make this country belive that ONLY WE CAN MAKE A POOSIBLE DIFFERENCE TO THIS COUNTRY.atleast oyr future generatins will not suffer this negligence and humiliation .
i personally feel that we all should form an all india doctoral students commity , which should have certain powers . and that commity should have members from all staes of country . and the commity should look in to problems of research scholars LETS START THIS GUYS .TELL THIS GOVT UR BUEROCRACY CANNOT HURT A SINGLE SCHOLAR IN THE COUNTRY .
lets tell this govt WE ALL WILL BE THERE FOR ANY BODY OF US . unfortunately we havent done any thing like this, but if we all think of this and IF WE HELP OUR SELF , this condition may cahnge .
BUT REALLY LOT OF THANKS TO VIKAS GUPTA AND ALL THOSE WHO HAS WRITTEN THE RTIS
LETS TELL THEM GUYS DONT STOP THIS HERE , TAKE THIS TO WHERE IT HAS TO BE .
WE ARE ALL THERE WITH YOU
Let us all open a forum where we can share our problems. Te first step would be probably to open a online forum/blog. Anybody who knows well how to open a forum/blog is welcome.The name would be ” Indian Research Fellow’s Forum/Blog.”Then when it is well established online with a good large number of students, we can go further and create an official one. But first let us come together online.
So anybody who knows well how to open a blog/forum, please do it immediately and post the link here.
Thanks in advance.
I am working as a JRF(GATE qualified) and getting fellowship from the institute(DST). please tell me whether this increment is applicable to me or not.
fist I want to thank those people who works for this enhancement. Thanks a lot, but I think Research is a passion of Research Scholar which would not be affected by financial matter, so please keep it.
Our government system is not worry about the financial condition of Research Scholar that is why we are not united so first we need one platform for that.
Dear All JRF/SRF/RS/Research Scholars,
I am happy to inform you that recently DST has decided to enhance Research Fellowship (w.e.f April 1, 2010)and it is applicable to all JRF/SRF/RS/Research Scholars working/employed in R&D activities of the Central Government Departments/Agencies/Institutions,etc.
For details, please go through the link attached below.
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new10/fellowship10.pdf
Lets hope for the best that others like CSIR, MHRD, AICTE, UGC, ICMR, DBT,etc will also increase their fellowship soon as the amount indicated by DST, once it is approved by their authorities at the latest.
Kindly forward/share this news to all concerned and hope you would also update me for the same.
Looking your reply soon.
Thanks and Regards.
i heard csir-jrf is somewhat more than DST, IST TRUE
This a a very bad news if seen from one perspective. DST memorandum has not only severely curtailed the earlier proposal of fellowship enhancement, but also withdrawn JRF/SRFship from non-NET qualified candidates. This is not welcome at all by researcher community. But seen from a larger perspective and in National interest it may be good for India. It is a clear signal by the government for Research Fellows/Associates that in this era of liberalization, government would not pay for their education from taxpayer’s kitty. Instead, talented youths should get a JOB in the booming economy and contribute to National GDP so that India achieves a 10% growth. But basic research is also important for economy and hence govt should reform this sector and should consider basic research as a serious job and not just an ad-hoc training assignment. Is anybody listening?
Write to President and other authourities of India
Dear all
I would like to inform you all that DST has announced their revision of
emoluments and revised guideline for the research fellowship.
Plz visit the following link(DST web site) for details:
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/main-new.htm and then click the “DST Research
Fellowship Enhanced”.
But the amount they mentioned is far less than expected even they are going to
start the revised fellowship from 1-4-2010 instead of 1-4-2009. we have to send
petetions to various authourities, keep petitioning them. Let them be flooded
with our mails. Also write to the president of India here
http://helpline.rb.nic.in/
And write to UGC chairman, CSIR chairman and others. Let them read our mails all
the time!
plz spare some time from your busy schedule.
regards
Anand
Why there is the difference in amount of fellowship of UGC-JRF and CSIR-JRF.
is there difference in csir-jrf and ugc-jrf, if yes any document evident is there
Why there is the difference in amount of fellowship of UGC-JRF and CSIR-JRF?
paisa bada hai to kharcha bhi badhao
hi dudes congerates to eveery body for this historical revolution
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Also this website is to unite all the research scholars in India to face any kind of problem that is faced by any research scholar in India….
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Here is the link for giving your opinion on anything and everything about research scholars/Indian science/Scientific development in India…
Also this website is to unite all the research scholars in India to face any kind of problem that is faced by any research scholar in India….
http://airsgp.ning.com/
Praveen, is this the blog???confirm
Yes you can join in and have you say….
I welcome all the research scholars of India to get united through this website so that we make our voice very big and heard by all people India…
Yes, it is definitely a good news that fellowship has increased, but it seems like that they have given us a lollipop to keep our mouth shut….it is very surprising to know that such huge government bodies and persons are speaking out vague things in public….like 50%hike from financial year 2009. Moreover, position of post doctoral fellows are still in the same old boat….when u people will complete your ph.d then only u can feel the humiliation. I strongly feel RA should get a prestigious amount.
In the OM DST has mentioned three categories of RA…but on the basis of what??? it is not at all mentioned anywhere in the list……then how long one RA will wait to get the entry in the next category??????? everything is confusing…..
I am surprised that apart from Mr Bharatiya’s posts above and few other posts , no one is discussing the finer implications of this OM. I request all of you to analyze the OM like a true researcher, you will find that this is a PATH-BREAKING/LANDMARK OM with serious implications.
First compare it with previous OMs by govt:
2010 OM: http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new10/fellowship10.pdf
2007 OM: http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new07/fellowship.pdf
2002 OM: http://dst.gov.in/r&d_funding/annexure2.htm
1990 OM: (Someone please upload it)
A careful reading will tell that 2010 OM supersedes all previous OMs, including 1990 OM and hence it abolishes 3 important designations/provisions:
1. Research Scientists
2. JRF/SRF Designation for non-NET qualified candidates
3. Overhead expenses to host institute
It creates a new class: NET(LS) JRF/SRF with a another level of stipend of 12k/14k
What would be implication of this? It seems that govt is reinforcing NET as a benchmark for research career, after diluting NET for teaching career(Mungekar Committee report). It may be good to strengthen NET as a standardized test on the lines of SAT/GRE/GMAT. Probably, that is why govt increased NUMBER of NET-JRF by 4 times over past couple of years, in order to insure a huge pool of NET qualified candidates. But, what will happen to transition students who have not cleared NET? What will happen to existing/aspiring Research Scientists? For all JRF/SRF, PhD registration is mandatory. Is it good or bad? There are few more landmark clauses in the OM regarding ‘conditions of service for research personnel’
So, friends this a landmark order, which will change the face of Indian research labs in coming years and it definitely deserves more attention than just treating it like ‘any other OM which has enhanced our stipend” approach.
So, hoping to hear some intelligent analysis from you guys here.
Best wishes
yes i agree with u vijaylaxmi… But unfortunately the OM does not specify the applicability of salary to the existing non-NET candidates. Because all projects funded by various funding agencies cannot get a NET qualified person so then will they even reduce the number of projects or is there any other alternative that they have thought of.
It would be nice if someone has already applied for an RTI in this regard so that we could know what is the status of present non-NET research scholars working under various projects
Why?
They are doing like this?
They are giving arears to employees from 1st jan. 2006 but why they are giving scholars from 1st April, 2010.
They made april fool of all of us.
We should not be quiet.
ChanderK.Sharma
PRESIDENT
Himachal Pradesh Research Scholar Association
Department of Biotechnology
HP UNIVERSITY
SHIMLA
Mobile:09418232858
I agree with you completely.
PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT, WHEN csir WILL RLEASE THE OM order
This is India. No one cares for research scholars or Post Docs. Teacher in high schools are paid better than a Post Doc. College teachers gets double of a Post Doc and nearly triple of a PhD and If you check you will come to know that a large share of them don’t have PhD.
Indian govt. is just like our companies, who think its better to buy technology from other countries. They are ready to pay huge amount for them but reluctant to spend little more money on research scholars who actually do research in India.
Anyway, any news when CSIR and UGC will increase their fellowship? will they give the same amount or lesser that DST? I can’t believe on this *****, they can do anything
Surajit Paul
Post Doctoral Fellow
IUCAA
Pune 411007
Hai every one, please can you tell me when csir will announce the incresed felloaship. then csir will give same fellowship or more compared to DST .thank you
i have a query, is increment announced by DST also applicable for direct SRF ?
All researchers are cordially requested to think about the proposed seminar so, that we can make a outline and proceed accordingly.
With best regrds,
ChanderK.Sharma
PRESIDENT
Himachal Pradesh Research Scholar Association
Department of Biotechnology
HP UNIVERSITY
SHIMLA
Mobile:09418232858
BTECH, BE graduate students are getting 25k/month as research trainee in csir labs !!!!
PGRPE scheme
ai every one, please can you tell me when csir will announce the incresed fellowship. then csir will give same fellowship or more compared to DST .thank you
what course are considered as professional course by DST
Ok, all said and done from DST , Mr Sibbal ( %$^&&%&) and Prof Brahmachari (I used to think of him very highly, need not to tell what I think of him now). Now the ball is in our court again.
We at IARI are holding meetings to discuss this problem. I want people from all institutes to do the same. This way will increase our strength.
We need to connect and meet. We need to file as many as RTI in Govt. ASS.
Why in the world we are the lowest paid research scholars. Even Korea pay better to their scholars then India.
Jai ho …. Sarkari chor logo ki…Politicians baba ki…Have you ever seen any poor politician….I am brimming with anger…
Please join http://airsgp.ning.com/
HI Atul
your anger is very justified. Do know Re-contesting MLAs shows huge increase in their assets between 2004 & 2009 elections:
Maharastra 339%, Arunchal 240 %, Haryana 388 %, and even 1 MLA shown increase of more than 1000 %.
Now people in ministry dont do anything for them, because they are also one of them.
But when its come to increase of fellowships of poorest paid R/S in the world, they pretend honesty , lack of funds with govt etc.
Jai ho most corrupt sarkari tantra and bureaucracy.
bye
There is just one way to cleanse this systems….put a bullet in govt ASS…shoot at sight for all politicians….This is high time….
I WANT TO PUT BULLET IN ALL OF THE POLITICIAN ASSES…I MAY SAVE MY COUNTRY..
JAI NETAJI SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE…..
Hi frnds
I have completed MSC (Agriculture) and working as SRF in DST project from 3 years and also registered for PhD (not qualified NET), Do i considered as Postgraduate degree in professional course (JRF leading to Phd ) and get 18k/20k ?
Can anybody tell when CSIR will Increased felloship.
very sooon there should be a news from csir about hike in fellowship…….let see……there nothing we can do now except waiting..indian research scholar are just making themself “idiot” by chosing research as cariier….even in our country a ph.D student dont have any job guarantee after completing ph.D ………”kya buritarha fase yaar…gharwale to pata nahi kaise kaise sapne dekhrahe hai”
anyway friend any news about fellowship update here.
thanks
hey i also feel the same thing. everyone is excited including family members, friends….but what about us guys. most of us wanted to become eligible for lecturship and what a destiny. when result was out i was so excited about making my career in research field but when i knew about all facts i was totally disappointed. i am net/jrf 2009 but still waiting for my registration in H.P university and when it comes to an increment in fellowship i feel that money making is not the matter here…….all this is about failure of govt. to put their part in producing effective research fellows and delay in increment shows they have accepted this failure. anyways just wait and watch
Still no news about the fate of non-NET scholars!!
I wonder about all people here calling them research scholars… There were so many requests earlier in this discussions for a platform on which not only the issue of fellowship of RS can be discussed but also various other discussions related to real research can be discussed. Owing to that I had taken pains to create a ning group with address http://airsgp.ning.com/.
Unfortunately the so called RS here are very much happy to just sit and comment on their fellowship than the real thing what they have to… Very sad on our part. I too agree that Indian govt has made 100% unacceptable job regarding our fellowship. But dear friends pl think in a positive way. I very well agree that the fellowship that we get is the most less paid job in india but still I bet none of us will quit research just for that sake. Also none of us will make it big even if we are paid what we have to(I mean money is not the one which is driving us in research). So please do comment on fellowship but on the same track pl do be a part of a community which is helping to bring all RS together on a single platform on which we not only can say our thoughts about our fellowship but also plan for some kind of seminars and discussions that we can take up to achieve what we want in regard of fellowship and most importantly can have discussions in our own fields.
Im sorry if im hurting you people here. But Im saying this with great sadness both in terms our fellowship and also in respect of our unitedness…. Hope I have conveyed my message… Positively thinking to be united and strengthen our group….
Every one is worried about their fellowship.let us all get together. I request you people not to make so many websites.Be united and exchange each others view and be optimistic we will lead to success.
Chander Kant Sharma
President
HPRSA
SHIMLA
9418232858
You people are in some confusion….fellowship has not enhanced..OM of DST was not for u reserch fellows who are doing phd in various institutes…
Hari..
thank u for your “fantastic” info!!!!!
no, DST WAS RAISED
what about project fellowas with GATE qualification?
does profession course don’t indicate subjects which are studied paying high amount of fees, like biotech.,microbiology, etc other than onle engeneering and medical courses?
whatever this is a discriminatory decission………all research scholars should be tread in the same way. scholars working in the same field with same labour and enthusiasm should be paid uniformly.
when csir will release OM
See Friends, How do government purposefully delaying implementation of increase of fellowship.
Now practically there is no problem in issuing OM of increment of fellowship by CSIR AND UGC.
This is radiculus.
Simillarly, government delays salary, Project Fund, etc. How do good quality research happen in India? If you do not have instruments, chemicals, and money for your routine life, Then What research can happen? I am worried about future of research in India?!!!!
samj nhi aata k ab late kyo kr rhe h…..
who are all already working in DST project they will arrears from sep 2009…
hello prasd, there mentioned only for NET students fellowship was raised, that also w,e,f from april first, then how ist possible
I am a JRF at ISM Dhanbad (MHRD funded). Enhanced rates will be applicable to me or not?
Kindly let me know…
Hi guys
Good researcher have above avg reasoning ability….so there is no question about the om published by dst is specefically for dst projects or any other government body….so my hearty advice read om carefully…think and make statemnts…..and another thing….we are the youth …after few days we may get chance to administartive jobs …that time we should help India to raise the level of research ….because we are Indians….It has given us lot….and its our time do sumthin for it….so guys dnt worry om by csir or ugc will cum sooner or later…..but nw think how we can contribute to Indian research…..
good RRR really a good suggestion to make a difference to fate of this country , i think lots of people are there with same view. but its all about getting united and getting plat forms
there is mention of fellowship for NET LS qualified student’s as well ,what abt that?and who will be getting?
Ya sreya, As DST has made compulsary to select NET-LS qualified candidate even for project JRF, these candidates can qualify PhD registration exam conducted by local university like PET by Pune university with agreement of the institute and the guide…. He/ she can register for PhD….but they will get different emolument as specefied by the DST OM….
tnx for the reply
i have qualified NET LS in 2007 and am doing Phd from BIT mesra and working there as institute fellow can i apply for that fellowship and if yes whom to approach?
u just need to find dst funded project and join in it any where in indaia thats it and u dont need to approch any one
respected sir,
recently i qualified my JRF(UGC) in education.
Kindly let me know what is the next step i need to follow.
regards
Dear M Sharma
First u summit your documents (attested copies e.g.,10the certificate, M.Sc. marksheet if passed otherwise u have to wait) to CSIR examination unit. They will send to certificate by post after some time this time depends on how much pressure on CSIR.
Good Luck
In the PDF of the result of all the candidates, there must be given what to do next and whom to send the documents, watch that. I am CSIR fellow and i followed the same. u will get your offer letter within 1 month
respected sir,
my JRF is in the subject of education.
kindly let me know that if you ar a jrf holder,is it mandatory for a university to take you as research scholar in PHD or it doesnt make a difference.
thanks.
Hi,I am a project fellow in UGC sponsored project.I get stipend of 8000 per month. Is there increase in this stipend? if yes then please mail me the increased stipend and details of this
Dear Apara
This is uncertain. It is difficult to say right now.
thanks
but is there any hope for the increment in this fellowship.
fa the time being nothing is mentioned fa project fellows , there is no difference from earlier .
So , no news finally for UGC-JRF
do u guys have anything to do except checking this page daily 5 times ? paisa 12000 dekh ke to aye ho is line me.ab kyun bharak rahe ho ? tum logo ka faltu research india k 100 crore logo ka kis kam mein aata hain ??? paisa chahiye to jao aaloo becho . paisa paisa paisa. kisne bola tha padhai karne ko. einstein was a part time physicist.tab usko kisne paisa dia tha.
KOI PAISA NEHI MILEGA . BHAR MEIN JAO SAB
I don’t know who r you.. I think a capitalist or ……. you are. Do you know how much a ‘aaloo bechnewala’ can earn? Have you any idea about that? Do you think a scholar can fulfill his family family (4 persons) needs with this amount in a city? Do you know about the salary hike of state and central govt. employee? Do you know abt the recent market hike? I think you don’t know. If you know it, then it is sure that you are not the only earning member of your family or you have a lot. Also i don’t think you have any right to give ‘PAISA’ to our research scholar. People like you will not go in ‘BHAR’ but many of us may go…….We don’t need much as a college lecture (~33000/month) or a govt officer (~28000-43000/month)but it should be such that a scholar can meets his family needs.
Thnaks Indian u have opened my eyes… thanks a lot buddy…
WHY DO STUDY TILL OUR MASTERS EVEN IF WE KNOW NEWTON AND HOW HE REVOLUTIONIZED WORLD RESEARCH….NOT EVERYBODY HAS GOT THAT GREAT INTELLIGENCE….RESEARCH IS THE MEDIUM TO GROW INTELLECTUALLY AND CHANGE THE OUTLOOK OF THE COMMUNITY….NOW DONT ASK ME WHAT IS THIS OUTLOOK….AS INDIAN MADE SUM STATEMNTS THAT MEANS HE HAS DONE THE RESEARCH, ANALYSIS, INTERPRETATION SPECEFICALLY ON THE TOPIC INDIA AND ITS RESEARCH STATUS…..SO ON THE BASIS THAT HE MADE STATEMENTS….U KNW ALOO BECHENEWALA BHI EK ACHA RESEARCHER HOTA HAIN…..IF U R RESEARCHER U CAN UNDERSTAND THIS LANGUAGE……WE ARE CREATING PLATFORM FOR UPCUMING GENERATION….MAY NOT BE FINACIALLY…..BUT DEFINATELY……FOR SUMTHIN WHICH INDIA HAS INHERITED IN US….THAT IS …….
indian association for the cultivation of science (iacs) kolkata has announced the revised fellowship for all , will b paid from next month.no matter if u r a net qualified or not.u guys can check that out.i heard this news.possibly true.
HI VIKAS,
I think it is the time now to close this blog…Surely..Or please play the role of moderator to edit the posts…It has not been the platform of any people to make comments whatever they like…Please give it a thought.
Thanks..
Aniruddha, I cannot delete this post or disable comments or anything like that. I am sorry; I hate censorship of any kind. I had never imagined this post will reach some 500 comments and get so so many views! Even if I am crticised anywhere on my own site I will not delete the comment.
PS: I am very busy though I read almost all comments here. I have no updates for this post. I had sent a mail to Amit Ranjan too but seems like he is very busy.
Thanks Vikas..for your prompt reply and comment.
Hi vikas,
could you pls tell me will this salary hike be for only the scholars who have cleared CSIR, UGC etc fellowship exams or for those also who are working as SRF or JRF in some funded projects.
thanks
byee
aniruddha ghosh from iiser kolkata ?
i want to know weather panjab university,chandigarh has also implemented the hike or not?if yes, then from what date and how much. and if no, then is there any chance of hike or not
Hi, I am a UGC-SRF scholar in my third year of research. Has UGC also increased the JRF/SRF scholarships? DST says JRF/SRF/RA is 16,000/18,000/22,000? What about UGC SRF? Since when will UGC SRF scholars get arriers, Sep ’09 or April ’10?
bhai logon yahan kya sirf CSIR and DST ki hi baat hoti hai? UGC JRF/ SRF ka bhi kuch bato yaar!
A very little Update….Mostly useless….for UGC JRF/SRF/RA
i made a ph call 2day from kolkata in UGC-NET bureau. A lady attended da telephone…the conversations were:
Me: Madam is there any increment in UGC-JRF?
Lady: Not yet, no information is there.
M: Internet sources are telling DST already increased it.
L: yes i know, but we have not received the memorandum yet through proper channel.
M: wat do u think? when it will increase?
L: let us receive the memo, then commission will call da meeting, after dat we could give da information, kuch keh nahi saktey.
M: thank you.
Telephone no: 011-24115416.
U ppl can also call and get some information. Plz do share it.
Hi Everyone!
I am working as a SRF in a Delhi based Central University. I think announcement of increasing fellowship amount by UGC just an election publicity stunt of GOI. Do not hope for this but research must go on!
Hi Everyone!
I am working as a SRF in a Delhi based Central University. I think announcement of increasing fellowship amount by UGC just an election publicity stunt of GOI. Do not hope for this but research must go on without thinking about the quality.
fantastic thinking…..carry on
Hi,
Dear all, we are always discussing the things with each other but do you think that, such discussions will be useful for us or by this method fellowship will increase? Please come together and make a team of all research scholars of India and then we can think somebody can listen us.
So please come forward..
Regards
Anand
sab frustrated hokar bhag gaye kya ??????????????
koi kuch to batao bhai UGC JRF-SRF ka
Dear all ab to kuch hone wala nahe h. chalo ek kam kare ke milne wale 12000/140000 ko bhee govt ko return kar dete h next month se.
The amount of fellowship we get is already too high..as we don’t do research at all.. we are simply parasite on government fund.. If you wish 2 earn then go and catch a job.. why doing PhD??? Think once.. what is the output of our so far done so called research for mankind.. cipher .. right. .. and for this cipher we are getting a big amount as research fellowship from government…
Parasite you are right. But can you think the world without research? Think of politicians they get too much for doing nothing. You research may not be useful for you, but it may be useful for others. Please think positively otherwise negative environment will perish you…
Can anybody tell the procedure to commence the CSIR JRF felloship? I have already sent the undertaking and joining report with attestationto the CSIR EMR unit. It is two months over still I didn’t get the sanction letter.
Well as you stated ,it seems you are either frustrated in your PhD work or u r in job where employer took work from employees like donkeys !!
well man PhD means research as well academics also and being specialized in a particular area.
I guess at university level every body like to be taught by good prof with PhD. So i guess you too have been taught by PhDs during graduate degree.I guess in this way saying all this about PhD student, u r humiliating your Teachers as well. I still owe a great respect even for my primary teacher. Man no job is good or bad. Well rest you r smart enough to understand what i mean. !!
are yaar, phd karke kya daya kar rahe ho govt k upar??? gaye kyun is line mein??kuch karo pehle, nehi to koi paisa nehi milega.paisa kya govt ko hawa mein milta hain ??tum log kisi kam ka nehi ho… yaha bhok te raho……
Hello Inidan,
Get Well Soon Mamoooo…
we all will pray to God. “Please please god take care of him”…….
bhaai saahab/Behan ji,
Aapke vichaar jaan ke bohot dukh pohncha. Kal ko aap kahenge ke professor ban ke daya kar rahe govt. pe? kaam to kuch karte nahi university professor isliye 6th ki jagah 2nd/3rd pay commission laagu karo. agar aapki Ph.D barbaad hai to kya sab ke sab aapke jaie hai? Aapko to abhi ki scholarship bhi zada lagti hogi na? to aap kya karte hai uska? itni chinta hai desh ki to apni scholarship me se kuch daan hi kar diya karo gareeb logon ko. sarkaar ka kuch to bojh kam hoga. after all,”pasie kya govt. ko hawa mein milte hain?”
By God konsi university ke scholar hai aap aur kis subject mei?
Guys, plz send flowers to Indian. He seems to be ill. Pray for him…………………….. Get well soon.
I am sorry to know Mr. Indian is no more healthy and he went insane after short period of wait for fellowship increment! He would have not taken this matter so seriously..
Is union government responsible?
If it is psychological disorder you can contact a famous doctor in Bangalore/shimoga. his name….hmmm.. Pai…Ashok pai. if you find financial problem ask me.. my may donation is for you(Rs500) and also help you in rising funds for your treatment…
Mr Indian, are you really teacher (March 4 2010 post by ‘Indian’)in a research institution? please tell me your work address.. i wanna save those students…
First learn to behave matured then think about research and teaching…
Oversmart Indian!?
Hi Indian!
Good thinking dearone! Go ahead with it.Even a primary teacher getting Rs.25,000 and doing nothing then why not a UGC/CSIR JRF/SRF deserve for a increased felloship ammount? Atleast they are doing something may be you are not one of them.
Takecare
Hi Indian!
Good thinking dearone! Go ahead with it.Even a primary teacher getting Rs.25,000 and doing nothing then why not a UGC/CSIR JRF/SRF deserve for a increased felloship ammount? Atleast they are doing something may be you are not one of them.
Takecare
Hi!
Enjoy your research work without thinking what anyone saying about you some day your work will be recognized.
You are still ill…………Get well soon…………Everybody plz wish him to get well soon…..
wats ur name orginal name mr indian, who are u actually, hw come 70% quotas u ur self tell the seats are vacanat, wat basis have u taken to spk that, wat ever it is i had aquestion , wat is the best business indian govt is spending on , PM HIM SELF BELIVES THE MOST PRODUCTIVE INVESTMENT OF ANY COUNTRY IS RESERACH( WATCH ISC 2010 INAGURAL ADRESS)
if u are resarcher and if u work hard in lab and if u are good enough to understand research, i suppse u wouldnot have told this .go to indiAN PATENTS OFFICE AND SEE THE PATENTS IN 2009 , if u have some thing to spk , spk affter seeing revenuve genrated from that, if guys like u belive that we are worthy fa nothing, i pity ud psychological disordes , but pls never tell that there are lot of good scholars in this country and u just dhoom their morality. never use thaT KIND OF WORDS .
just checkout this …. is going to increase
http://helpbiotech.net/uncategorized/jrfsrfra-fellowship-increase-to-rs-160001800022000-from-april-1st-2010/04/2010/
by the way who is this INDIAN …. if r u doing research u should quit … you have a problem of mental imbalance …
“Research means hope”
dear indian,
who told you that primary teacher is getting 25000 for doing nothing…..you know the most easiest thing is to stand outside the field and comment on it…each one of us whatever be our field is giving OUR BIT of contribution if v r doing it sincerely..oderwise each one us is doing nothing…i know u raise some reflective issues..at times u have to b critical of ur usage of examples..
tk cr….
Are Bachhon,
Baba ki shran mein jao Sab theek hoga are bana hai to Leader bano, cricketer bano, actor bano resarcher banne se kya hona hai kuchh bhi nahi jyada se jyada professor hi to to bhi kya ukhad jayega. Baba banane mein bhi fayda hai Ramdev Jee se hi kuchh seekh le lo. Govt. Kuchh nahi dene wali. Wo kisi atul bhai ne theek likha tha upar ki ye ek chunavi vada tha felloship badhne ka. Ghanta nahi badhne wala. Babagiri karo, Netagiri karo aur Aish karo kaish gino bhaiyon. Yun hi apas mein ladne ka kya fayada?
Hey guys! this indian says he’s ANIRUDDHA GHOSH from IISER-KOLKATTA. Is there any one who knows him…? kolkata researchers plzzz if u find him give him our GET WELL SOON WISHES!!
Addendum by site admin (vikas):
Hope, Indian is not Aniruddha. He was asking Aniruddha if the latter was from IISER.
hey guys wahts this going on ?
why r u changing it as a FUN ZONE by posting irrelevant comments ???
are kisi achhe jaga ko kharap karna to neta logo ka kaam hai hum log to researcher hai to fir aisa kyun kar rahi hai!!!!!!!!
if someone is posting some comments for just “maja lene ke liya ”
then IGNORE HIM if u reply it will fuel him and encourage him for some more dirtier comments.
so guys please help to blog to maintain its original requirement
thanks in advance…
Dear All,
Can anyone please let me know..
1) Is there any increment in contingency for Post Doctoral Fellows?
2) What are the rate for Per Diem in case of Visit to Europe for the Post Doctoral Fellow?
Any information and link is welcomed
Thanks in advance.
Surajit Paul
PDF
IUCAA, Pune
people gone rock bottom of frustration and low class conversation.
useless comments like given by few of padhe likhe illiterate people. i was among first fewer to write comment here but now it has gone to worst and dirtiest level .
bye bye blog
hii all, is this blog for Indian or for us ?
hi ,
vikash gupta @ amit AND OTHERS
I THINK SOMEONE OR TWO IS POSTING DIRTY LANGUAGE UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES TO POLLUTE THIS BLOG SO THAT UNITED RESEARCHERS BEING ANNNOYED LEAVE THIS BLOG ….
OR IN A WORD ITS A CONSPIRACY BY SOME OF OUR FELLOWS TO CLOSE THIS BLOG ( I HOPE I AM WRORNG!! )
MY APPEAL TO THESE FELLOWS IS THAT PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE GAME OF WORDS WHY NOT CONCENTRATE ON THE REAL ISSUES??
SO VIKASH & AMIT BHAI DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT THESE NON SENSE ,DIRTY POSTS..
SORRY NOT VIKASH GUPTA @ AMIT AND OTHERS PLEASE READ V.GUPTA AND AMIT AND OTHERS
You are right. This is a preplanned game. The real questions/problems like Surajit’s are overlooked in the garbage. I don’t know about the Post Doc issue. But if somebody is aware of that please answer his question. For easy to find I am quoting his questions below:
1) Is there any increment in contingency for Post Doctoral Fellows?
2) What are the rate for Per Diem in case of Visit to Europe for the Post Doctoral Fellow?
EVERYONE,
THINGS ARE REALLY GETTING DIRTY HERE! I NOTED MANY DIRTY COMMENTS FROM ONE IP ADDRESS (BUT I CANNOT REVEAL IDENTITIES,IP, INSTITUTE); INDIAN AND OTHERS, PLZ CONTROL YOURSELF.
I VE REMOVED HERE SOME BAD COMMENTS AND SOME COMMENTS BY SOME PEOPLE WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY GOING IN MODERATION QUEUE. PLZ CONTROL YOURSELF PEOPLE AND DO NOT INDULGE IN FLAMING.
Dear Vikas, I did tell you once to edit those bad comments well in advance. Didn’t I?
Now the situation demands that you should do it…feeling sorry for you really..I wonder why people make those ugly comments.
Really Shame….
I have heard very recently that the institutes of Department of Space (DOS), like ISRO, Bangalore,SAC/ISRO, PRL,Ahmedabad has enhanced the rate as per DST scale even for Non NET fellows..Is it true? Anyone from those Institute please report.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12862b07bd0ee4b8&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=0ef350fa51&view=att&th=12862b07bd0ee4b8&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=f_g8rdks0y0&zw&sig=AHIEtbR-NoASeMMMYQ8kYvrAPiKwI-oKLg&pli=1
SEE THIS LINK https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_93vuZtYypbYjhjMjUxODYtOTBhOS00YzM1LThkMzMtNzJlYmQ0M2RhNjE1&hl=en VIKAS
@ Khhitish, Cant see anything
can anyone give the email id so that i can send the prl ahmedabad jrf increase notification.
HERE IS THE PRL NOTIFICATION LINK AND ANYBODY CAN VIEW IT
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_93vuZtYypbYjhjMjUxODYtOTBhOS00YzM1LThkMzMtNzJlYmQ0M2RhNjE1&hl=en
Thanks a lot Vikas and Kshitish, being a SRF of ISRO project( SAC/ISRO, Ahmedabad), I think I can also enjoy the same hike in spite of being a non-NET. Can’t I?
Dear All,
Can anyone tell me if the Dept of Space (DOS) has released the OM for revised fellowship? PRL (also belongs to DOS) has already notified it (as of Vikas and Kshitish)..but what about their headquarters DOS?
oh nice i am relieved.
thank u vikas
CSIR and UGC Are sleeping or what?
When will they increase?
Hi,
I wanted to know if there is some news about whethet LS people will be given sm fellowship? and another is if yes who will be the funding authority UGC or CSIR
any news for CSIR? When will CSIR SRF will increase?
CSIR, AND UGC FOLLOW THE DST OM,. so that funding agency wont release separate OM, IN IISER IMPLEMENETED THE INCRESED STIPEND, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOT FEKLLOWSHIP
I went to UGC at morning today and asked Joint Secretary about incensement of fellowship. He replied that they have not received any circular or order about it yet but may be soon after clearing the finance bill it would be implemented.
Thanks Atul,
If you are nearer to Delhi. Please keep following…
What will be the fate of JRF(non NET) who were working before the OM came out, WIll they be demoted & salary will be reduced? is it fair????
i m qualified net-ls in june2009 but not recived certificate yet. i m also qualified net-ls-jrf in dec 2009 so can u tell me valadity start form sep 2010 or any procedure i get provisional certificate for admission
Dear Abhishek
You can’t getprovisional certificate, But CSIR will give you hand written letter with authorised signature on giving a written request.
Hi Abhishek
I have no clue about provisional certificate, but the validity of award starts from the date of issue of award letter. which in your case is not known, as you have not yet received your award letter. The date of issue of letter is generally of same month in which you receive the letter. Try to contact JRF office to know status of your letter.
Best Wishes
What will be the fate of JRF(non NET) who were working before the OM came out, WIll they be demoted & salary will be reduced? is it fair????
Does anyone have any comments/ views on this issue???
it is congratulations from my side to every Jrf for revision in their stiphened , but it is not easy to get out of the university rules and regulations they dont follow the exact timings to avil it
Hey friends! Everyone’s talking about UGC/CSIR,NET-LS etc.,,, but wat abt DBT scholars? Is there no plans for increment for DBT-JRF’s?
I want to file a RTI but my problem is I dont have any Id proof yet….. Is there neone thinking abt it..?
No problem for filing RTI application under RTI act-2005, if u don’t have any ID proof and u don’t need to disclose your identity.
good wishes.
Hi Vikas,
My second visit to your blog. Just thought of sharing with you a confirmed news of JRF/SRF Fellowship hike that came in TOI dated 06.05.10 on Page 9(Article-Top central univs have 34% teaching posts vacant). Kindly read the last paragraph of this article. It says that ministry has taken steps by increasing JRF/SRF by 50%. And the commonsense says its naturally of UGC. Vikas i need your help again.
Kindly guide me in my following queries :- (Would b grateful to you)
Although i have joined as a JRF in my university,and my UGC fellowship is in the process of being released, but still i m also applying for lecturership and have got stronger chances of getting that job. I m doing my M.phil since a year and my fellowship would begin from dec.14,2009. If i manage to get the post of a lecturer, would i lose the fellowship of even Dec.09-Jun.10 ?? I know i will have to quit as a JRF, but don’t want to lose 6 months fellowship.
U r a stranger, still i would b grateful to you if u can guide me a bit in this, as i have no one else who knows JRF formalities. Thanks.
Priya,
I think you should get it if you apply and pursue it. This happens to many students. Ideally you should get it because you are claiming it for a period during which you were unemployed. I have no more info to give on this; but you do apply and see what happens. Your supervisor should sign it because it is your valid claim.
Thanks for the TOI update. The last sentence “These steps include 50% enhancement in junior and senior research fellowships” means increase in no. of seats. But then it is going to increase sooner or later as you can see in some updates here (notifications by some organisations). I also think you can even claim this enhanced amount as and when it is implemented (presently you’ll get 12k only).
I am busy and may not reply here now. I subscribe to the TOI but had no time to turn the pages; so thanks for the update Priya!
Here is the full text of the TOI report (6 May 2010, page 9):
Priya according 2 ur JRF letter says u’ll not loose it
I have claimed it also….
coz i also applied for da post of LS
Priya,
You wil not lose the money for six months. As you were not in job for those 6 months u can claim that money. There is no problem in that.
Thanks Vikas for your prompt response.
I would definitely try for it and see what happens. Thanks for taking out your precious time to help people like me. Sometimes all one needs is a little thoughtful advice. Try to save few minutes next time too if i need any more advices. All the best for Your Ph.d again……
And Niladri, thanks for sharing your experience too.
GOD BLESS YOU
what is the chance for ugc-jrf candidate to take ph.d admission in iit compair to mtech student . which have a got more waitage . i m qualified mca and got ugc-jrf . any posibility that i can get ph.d in iit.
dear abhishek,
In iit there is no weitage for Phd admission. I m doing phd in IIT bombay in dept of bioscience. If u hav felloship then its good but final selection is based on interview.It is not the case that guy which has no JRF felloship will not get selection, even though u hav qualified GATE, u wil get admission if perform well in interview. Many guys hv failed to qualify even when they were toppers in CSIR JRF
As you all know what stated by HRD ministry in times of India regarding lack of teachers in India. In response they replied that they have increased 50 % fellowship for srf n jrf.
does any one know any OM from HRD regarding this?
if yes , it would be kind if you let us all know.
thanks
cheers !!
Thanks vikas for your live update regarding fellowship
Hi All,
I think, we need to unite all research scholars of india, Its a great blog to discuss the things but Orkut will be more helpful for us to do so…what you people think???????
jago India jago dear all kuch karo
i think we all should send a aplication letter to CSIR. What is happening inside? what do u think ???
Sir,
I am workings as senior research fellow at kerala agricultural university in NOVOD Board funded project. I would like to know about the fellowship increasement of SRFs under NOVOD project. please reply me
faithfully
Bijesh
When Normal UGC JRF Amount(CSIR already increased) Enhancement????
Any link of increase of JRF fellowship amount by CSIR?
CSIR NOT YET INCREASED FELLOWSHIP.. NO OFFICIAL OM YET…
THESE GOVERNMENT PEOPLES UNNECESSARILY TROUBLING STUDENTS..
what is the latest information regarding the enhancement of ugc fe;;owship
i had done ma in englishn 58.55 marks form ignou.now i want to do phd in english is it possible at this stage.
Yes! you can but be sure your Ph.D should be in compliance with UGC 2009 regulation. it is advisable to enroll yourself to a regular Ph.D course (not through distance/ correspondence mode as the new regulation has devalued their validity) . B.H.U is inviting applications for Ph.D. and last date is till mid june.
@All,
I qualified for PhD admission in IIT Kanpur this time. I have done B.Tech & have valid GATE score. I wanted to know is there any revision in scholarship for PhD in IIT with GATE score.
Dear lalan kumar, IIT is directly governed by MHRD. Once you are in PhD, it does nt matter that u hav been selected by GATE or anyother. Dont worry, every PhD student will get benefit of increament sooner or later. Felloship has nt increased for 1st time. everytime it increases, all agencies increase it.
i m qualified ugc-net-jrf dec 2009 in cs . is i m eligible for apply ph.d nit/iit before accepting the original certificate . i talk to ugc that person who attend the call say not eligible before getting certificate is it true.
i m qualified ugc-net-jrf dec 2009 in cs . is i m eligible for apply ph.d nit/iit before accepting the original certificate . i talk to ugc that person who attend the call say not eligible before getting certificate is it true.
Is there any recent news about increment of UGC JRF/SRF.
I Have qualified CSIR-UGC Net exam with lectureship. Is there any announcement to provide a fellowship similar to CSIR/UGC categorie. DST has announced dt.31 March 2010,(A.20020/97-IFD) that “JRF leading to Ph.D:PG degree in Basic Sciencewho have NET qualified for Lectureship”
I am confused whether UGC or CSIR or DST will provide the Fellowship.
I am working as a project fellow and i get a pay of Rs.8000/- and is there any increment in the pay of a project fellow after the sixth pay commission norms?
Hiiii…. every one….a good news for those belongs to CSIR faimily. Please follow the link.
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article425642.ece
well its really nice that CSIR is proposing for its own academy. In fact i kinda feel like those who do Ph.D. thru CSIR are in a bit of advantage as they dont have to pay any academic fee where as in IITs its about 20000 per semester… so as compared to those CSIR JRFs / SRFs we are getting only abt 9 – 10 months salary in a year as the remaining though paid, is absorbed back in the name of fee.
hello, everyone i have to fill a grant -in aid bill for climing CSIR-JRF fellowship(for 2010-2011 session).Till now i was waiting for the announcement of fellowship increase,but as of now it is not increased,So should i wait for anymore time or send the claim bill to csir.Plz, help me out of the confusion.
we need to do it again…..see the link…same story of betray should not be repeated….
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=240156
It is confirmed now that the New JRF fellowship amount has been granted by ministry of HRD
Government of India
Ministry of Science & Technology
Department of Science & Technology
Revision of emoluments and revised guidelines on other service conditions for research personnel employed in R&D programmes of the Central Government Departments / Agencies.
In supersession of this Department’s OM of even number dated 06.08.2007 on the above subject, the matter has been further considered by the Government and the following are the approved revised emoluments and guidelines on service conditions. This O.M. is applicable to the research personnel working on R&D programmes funded by the Central Government Departments / Agencies.
i) Junior Research Fellow (JRF)/ Senior Research Fellow (SRF)
1. Junior Research Fellow (JRF) leading to PhD
Post Graduate (PG) Degree in Basic Sciences and NET qualified OR
Graduate Degree in Professional Courses and GATE or equivalent qualification
Revised Emoluments per month for first 2 years Rs 16000/-
Emoluments per month after 2 years/SRF Rs 18000/-
2. Junior Research Fellow (JRF) leading to PhD
Post Graduate (PG) Degree in Basic Sciences who have NET qualified for Lectureship
Revised Emoluments per month for first 2 years Rs 12000/ –
Emoluments per month after 2 years/SRF Rs 14000/-
3. Junior Research Fellow (JRF) leading to PhD
Post Graduate Degree in Professional Courses
Revised Emoluments per month for first 2 years Rs 18000/-
Emoluments per month after 2 years/SRF Rs 20000/-
The local institution should review the performance of the fellow after two years through an appropriate review Committee constituted by the Head of the Institution. The fellowship in the slab after 2 years of research experience may be provided after successfu l assessment by this review Committee.
The earlier “Guidelines for selection of non-NET qualified JRF/ SRF” issued vide DST Office Memorandum No.1 2(1)/76-GRS dated 30th July, 1990 stands withdrawn.
In programmes where there is a need to engage research personnel at a level higher than JRF/SRF and such need has been accepted by the funding agency, the remuneration for such personnel may be fixed as indicated below.
ii) Research Associates (RA)
Research associates may be fixed at a consolidated amount at one of the 3 pay levels given below, depending upon the qualifications and experience. The Institute / Organisation concerned may decide the level in which a particular associate should be placed based on the experience.The Essential Qualification (EQ) for RA is as follows:
EQ: Doctorate (PhD/MD/MS/MDS) or equivalent degree or having 3 years of research, teaching and design and development experience after MVSc! MPharm/ MEl MTech will be eligible for award as RA.
S.No Category Revised Emoluments per month
1. Research Associate I (RA-I) Rs 22000/ -
2. Research Associate II (RA-II) Rs 23000/-
3. Research Associate III (RA-II I) Rs 24000/-
The stipend of research fe llow/associate is exempt from the payment of income tax I under 10(1 6) of IT Act, 1961.
Service Conditions:
1. DA and CCA: JRFs, SRFs and Research Associates will not be entitled to these allowances.
2. House Rent Allowance (HRA): All research fellows may be provided hostel accommodation wherever available and those residing in accommodation provided by the Institute will not be eligible for drawing HRA. Wherever provision of hostel accommodation is not possible, HRA may be allowed to all the above categories viz ., JRF, SRF and RA as per Central Government norms applicable in the city/ location where they are working. The fellowship amount may be taken as basic for calculating the HRA.
3. Medical Benefits: The research fellows and research associates (JRF/ SRF/ RA) will be entitled for medical allowance as applicable in the implementing institution.
4. Leave and other entitlement benefits: The JRF/SRF are eligible only for casual leave while Research Associates are entitled to leave as per rules of the host institution. Participation of any of these categories (JRF/ SRF/ RA) in any scientific event/ workshops in India or abroad will be treated as “on duty”. The travel entitlement for JRF/ SRF/ RA for participation in scientific events/ workshops in India will continue to be the same as earlier i.e. 2nd AC by rail. Maternity leave as per Govt. of India instructions issued from time to time would be available to female candidates in all categories.
5. Bonus & Leave Travel Concession: JRFs, SRFs and Research Associates will not be entitled to these allowances.
6. Retirement Benefits: JRFs, SRFs and Research Associates will not be entitled to these benefits.
7. Publication/ Patent: The results of JRF/ SRF/ RA’s research work may be published in standard refereed journals at the discretion of the Fellow or his Guide. It should be ensured by the fellow that the assistance provided by the funding agency of Government of India is acknowledged in all such publications.
8. Encouragement for pursuing higher degree: Students selected as JRF/ SRF may be encouraged to register for higher degrees and the tuition fees to undertake these studies may be reimbursed to the student from the contingency grant sanctioned under the project grant, if required .
9. Obligations of JRF/ SRF/ RA:
a) He/ She shall be governed by the disciplinary regulations of the host Institute where he/she is working.
b) The JRF/ SRF/ RA must send a detailed consolidated report of the research work done during the entire period of Fellowship on completion of the tenure/ resignation of the Fellowship at the earliest.
10. Date of Effect: The revision in emoluments come into effect from 1.4.2010 for all categories of JRF/ SRF and Research Associates.
11. Central Government Departments / Agencies are requested to ensure that the above guidelines are followed in regard to the remuneration and other benefits to the research personnel engaged in R&D projects funded by them . They are also requested to circulate these orders to their attached and subordinate offices and also to the autonomous institutes funded by them.
12. The above m”ay be used as guidelines by CSIR, UGC etc.
http://www.dst.gov.in/whats_new/whats_new10/fellowship10.pdf
It is a old news dear…nothing new in it
Is there any link that MHRD accepted the enhanced fellowship?
Hey Friends can I apply for the post of Asst professor if i have qualified NET but still awaiting my certificate?
is there anyway to get provisional certificate as i feel that it would take atleast 6 months from now plz help!!!!
yes u can apply but you have to provide the evidence at least at time of interview. when u applying kindly attach your Hall ticket and your results sheet with marking your no.
Hmmm..as far as I know that only having a LS qualification,u cant apply for Asst.Professor…u need a PhD degree. LS is desired for the post of lecturer only.
designation in universities have been changed
lecturer= assistant professor
Reader= associate professor
Professor remains the same.
minimum qualification for assistant professor is masters with NET(LS)
dear all,
please help me to know that i did my masters in sociology from from a reputed institute but managed to get only 51%,can i do m.phil from somewhere n if so will i be exempted frm NET…Aldo i hv qualified net in sociology but as the score is less than 55% it is nt useful ..plz guide…
hello, everyone i have to fill a grant -in aid bill for climing CSIR-JRF fellowship(for 2010-2011 session).Till now i was waiting for the announcement of fellowship increase,but as of now it is not increased,So should i wait for anymore time or send the claim bill to csir.Plz, help me out of the confusion.
I want to ask that, presently I am doing job at Rs. 12,000 p.m., so can I do Ph. D. under the scheme of JRF without scholarship, while doing my job?
Yes you can do Ph.D part time,but in that case you can’t be called JRF(junior research fellow) and can’t avail the scheme.Now for doing Ph.D from any university you need to go through the course work that may range from 6 months to 1 year and may vary from university to university.That course work has to be done on regular basis.I would love to ask what scheme of JRF you want to avail without scholarship???
Thax a lot “Sham Ji”. But I want to know that, can I pursue for Ph. D. without the course work, as I am M. Phil. Please make me informed. And in case I have more queries can I call you (but in such a case you have to provide your number to me).
Thanx a lot once again.
regards (rohilla, amit)
Yes,according to UGC (Minimum standards and procedure for awards of M.Phil/Ph.D Degree) Regulation 2009,you are exempted from the course work,but there is also one recommendation from UGC that all admissions to the Non-NET candidates shall be given after when they qualifying the University exam.Exam may be exempted if you do your Ph.D from the same university from which you passed your M.Phil.In case of change of university,entrance exam is the necessary condition.Therefore,no escape Amit.However,candidate with teacher fellowship from UGC are exempted from entrance exam and if such candidate is with M.Phil degree then he is also exempted from course work.But this UGC fellowship is given to permanent faculty in colleges or the universities.But,as i can see in your case ,you are not permanent faculty.So,entrance exam imposes on you,if you choose to change your previous university.As far as my contact number is concerned,this blog itself is my contact number .You can contact me through this blog.
Helo Mr. Sham,
Sir, Myself is M. Com., M. Phil. from the same university i.e. Kurukshetra University, Kurukshetra. Now I joined the JRF overthere. Moreover I was exempted from the Entrance Test. Now my question is that, whether or not I am exempt from the Course Work, as I am M. Phil. from the same university.
Waiting for your reply.
Yes,you are exempted from the course work as M.Phill candidates need not to go through course work.Because the sole purpose of the course work is to train an enrant in the research with its tools and methodologies.as you have already got research training in the M.Phil course.So no training now, means no course work.I am confused with the fact that in your first question,in which you said you are doing a job of Rs 12000 ,then how can you join as JRF.If you have joined as JRF,then how can you be in the job.Clarify your stand that what you are doing right now.As all your previous three questions have some or the other kind of contradiction with each other.
Presently I am at home and availing the vacations of the Month of May and June 2010. Sir If you want to ask for any other information, then you are welcomed. And thanx for the answer and for eiminating all my worries.
(rohilla, amit)
Hello Amit,
Enjoy your holidays.Best of Luck .Wish to God that you may get all
success and happiness in you life.
Hello Sham
I’m an UGC-JRF and also joined it. My question is…
does UGC-JRF’s also need to do the course work?
My second question is if a NET qualified candidate is appointed by an University as JRF need to do the course work?
Hello NIladri,
Yes,JRf also have to go through the course work.Answer to your second question:If a NET qualified candidate(without any research experience)joined as JRF in university under some project.Then his initial six months tenure in the project would be considered as the course work time and then he will be registered in the University for Ph.D,after having the exam testing his knowledge gained through this time.So Course is mandatory for this case also.
Thank you Sham !
I am a UGC-JRF holder.Now I got admission to MPhil programme.My querry is can I avail JRF fellowship for my MPhil programme?What about the possibility of continuous assiatance if I could join PhD immediately after MPhil or I will not get the assistance for Phd?
I am going to apply for Ph.D from Jadavpur University,Kolkata, under
state government fellowship scheme. I was reading about the news of
hike in fellowship. I would be greatly helped if you can give me
information/source of information about the following things.
1. If DST increases the fellowship for JRF/SRF, would CSIR or UGC
generally increase it? and will it be effected from the same date?
2. Whether there is a chance that the state govt. also increase it,
effected from the same date.
3. what is the last situation updated to you about the fellowship hike?
PARAG BANERJEE
JADAVPUR UNIVERSITY
KOLKATA-32.
paragbanerje@gmail.com
I am in IISER, Pune. They are putting income-tax on RA ship. What can be done in this regard.
If your post is SRA and if you have basic scale + HRA +DA + etc.
then you have to pay tax.
If not then you do not have to pay tax.
RA-1, RA-2, RA-3 need not pay tax.
hi
, I am getting 18000 ONLY. So I am not SRa, but RA-3.But they are regularly deducting income tax at IISER, Pune, inspite of my explanation.
See, If you are getting your amount in the form of Scholarship, then it is fully exempt under section 10(16) of Income tax Act, 1961. For more details consult a Chartered Accountant. Do not believe on the answers given in this forum. I hope you will understand.
Do you think that it is worng information?
You have to consult tax expert… Not CA…
Amit,see the mirror?
Mr. Rajesh and Mr. Dev: Ha ha ha, I am not in the need to see the mirror, but you both. What I said earlier–see the section 10(16) of Income-tax Act, 1961. As I told Malini, if the amount is in the form of scholarship, then it is fully exempt. But what about others, it shall be taxable under the head Salaries, if it is received by you as an employee, else it shall be taxable under the head Income from other sources. And moreover, you MR. RAJESH AND MR. DEV, for you kind information CA is a lawyer of Income-tax and can practice in the court of law for Income-tax cases and he can also fight the case in the Income-tax Appellate Tribunal.
Ms. Nalini, I think except your scholarship, the amount of HRA and other emoluments if exceeds Rs. 1,90,000 for the assessment year 2010-11, then only this amount shall be taxable otherwise not. And in case this amount is up to Rs. 1,90,000 then there is no need to deduct the tax at source also.
Any further queries are welcomed.
Clarification regarding Income tax:
1. As per 10(16) section of IT Act ‘SCHOLARSHIPS FOR EDUCATION’ are exempted from tax. This means, that only UGC-CSIR-NET JRF/SRF is exempt from tax as these are given to support ones education (i.e. acquiring PhD degree). All other forms of stipend viz Project JRF/SRF or RA were taxable till 31st March 2010, as these are not dependent on PhD registration.
2.However, GOI has extended exemption benefit to RAs as well wef 1 April 2010 as per DST OM.
3. From 1.4.2010, no JRF/SRF will be awarded without confirm PhD registration (as per DST OM, hence all JRF/SRF will also be tax free from 1/4.2010.
Projects which started before 1.4.2010 will continue to have project JRF/SRF positions for few more years. These will also be exempted from tax wef 1.4.2010.
I am working as a SRF under ICAR’S IPR project…
There is any hope of increasing salary….
plz inform…
hi frnds,
kindly someone tell me the courses considered as professional by DST
Hi,
All , what is new update abt UGC-NET JRF/SRF is now 18k / 21k Rupees per month ??????????? I think this blog is for new updates abt scholarship enhancement but we are diverting from main reason.
we should not be worry abt scholorship, its the time to devlope u 4 future b/s fellowship is temporary
Dear Mohd Kamil,
Everybody knows that fellowship is temporary in nature so no need to remind that.. But I would like to remind you it is compensation for a fellow who can earn more than this in another job. A SRF is getting rs.18; 200/month can earn more than that and what about quality of research then? In Delhi a beggar can earn more money for this amount. Mahgayi sabke liye badhi hai mere bhai ek fellow ko bhi uchit muwavja milna chahiye. Aur aap kuchh nahi kar sakte to plz apne khokhle adarsho ka pathh yahan nahi padhaiye. We fellows know about our research work. Wo hum iske bina bhi kar sakte hain. Sarkar nahi badha sakti to bole na waise hi kar lenge lekin mantriyon ,snsado aur karmchafioyo se bhi yehi ummed ki jani chahiye.
We are talking about the enhanced fellowship for a long time, but we did not get it, when we will get it.
whats are going on, when we will get the enhanced fellowship.
can someone please update information about the increment of UGC-SRF and especially give some info about its implementation in JNU. Thanx a lot.
A Proffesor from IGNOU inform me that In his university a jrf is getting 24,000/month.
I am agree with Anand H here that we are not discussing what we suppose to discuss here.
@ Vikas Plz do something to overcome this problem.
Bilkul theek kaha chele tumne.
I would like to request you all plz do not discuss Irrelevant issues here.
I am sorry to say Manoj It will not happen near future.We should raise this issue in media also.
Hope for the best.
Perhaps UGC/CSIR all of them have taken sleeping pill
HI
WHEN WIL INCREASE THE CSIR JRF
It has been increased but when it will come in your account,We do not Know.
It has been increased but when it will come in your account,We do not Know.
It has been increased but when it will come in your account,We do not Know.
My Research fellowship as an RA is 18000/- which is RA-3 in project of ISRO. I dont think I am subjected to pay Income-tax. then why people at IISER, Pune are not understanding.
i am working as a project fellow in ugc major project , can any body tell if this fee hike is applicable to me or not.
Presently, It is not applicable for project fellow but yes in near future it may possible.
Presently, It is not applicable for project fellow but yes in near future it may possible.
Hi, all i wanted a favor from you people, I am a UGC JRF, i have got an acceptance letter to attend the conference on Monsoon in China. They are giving me both Registration fee as well as hotel expenses.But are not giving Travel expenses. So, is it possible to apply for a travel grant to UGC for this? If, yes please reply me with the like of that page…
Thanking you in advance.
Regards
Kshirod.
I am UGC-NET(JRF) qualified.i want to apply fo Maulana Azad Minority scholarship also.Can I get both simultaneously?bcoz for both scheme funding body is UGC.Plz reply me soon.I am waiting
REPLY BY MR. AMIT RANJAN SENT ON EMAIL BY MISTAKE:
Hi,
You can apply but You will not get both simultaneously. Legaly and morally it is not possible .
If you will apply, You have to choose any one option either UGC or Maulna and if you are choosing any one, then that will be valid for five years only( including first one).
I could not understand why you want to do so. Definitely it will be wastage of time.
Thanks,
amit
Amit Ranjan
School of Life Sciences
Jawaharlal Nehru University,
New Delhi
India
Pin 110067
More replies by Amit sent to mail by mistake (please reply on blog people; do not reply to the mail that comes in your mailbox as that will be sent to my mail id and not published here).
1. Hi,
You can apply but You will not get both simultaneously. Legally and morally it is not possible .
If you will apply, You have to choose any one option either UGC or Maulana and if you are choosing any one, then that will be valid for five years only( including first one).
I could not understand why you want to do so. Definitely it will be wastage of time.
Thanks,
amit (8 June 2010)
2. Dear Arvind,
You should contact to UGC directly or via phone. I think there are so problem. Idealy, a person get his award letter after 2 months.
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan, 10 June 2010
no mr tauqur u cant apply for both fellowship . u should activate jrf fellowship. are bhai doosro ke haq pe apni nigahen mat lalchao
no mr tauqur u cant apply for both fellowship . u should activate jrf fellowship.
Hi, all i wanted a favor from you people, I am a UGC JRF, i have got an acceptance letter to attend the conference on Monsoon in China. They are giving me both Registration fee as well as hotel expenses.But are not giving Travel expenses. So, is it possible to apply for a travel grant to UGC for this? If, yes please reply me with the like of that page…
Thanking you in advance.
Regards
Kshirod.
Plzzzzzzzzzzz give some reply soon
Hi, all i wanted a favor from you people, I am a UGC JRF, i have got an acceptance letter to attend the conference on Monsoon in China. They are giving me both Registration fee as well as hotel expenses.But are not giving Travel expenses. So, is it possible to apply for a travel grant to UGC for this? If, yes please reply me with the link of that page…
Thanking you in advance.
Regards
Kshirod.
Plzzzzzzzzzzz give some reply soon
Kshirod, As I know UGC and AICTE gives travel support for faculty. For further confirmation please visit their website.
If you already got registration and accommodation you will certainly get travel funding from other funding agencies like CSIR, DST, INSA. Please go ahead aggressively…
Here is a link for your help…
http://sekarannk.googlepages.com/travelgrants
Gurumurthy G P
Thanks a lot Gurumurthy G P for your prompt reply to my query. I will do the best to attain the conference. Thanks again.
Have a nice day.
Thank u kamil and Amit for ur suggestion
Hi, I am UGC JRF and send the required document for award letter 4 months before.I have not received award letter yet, can anyone tell how much time it will take to get award letter.thank you.
new rule, income tax on RAs fellowships violation of DST rules. THis is happening at IISER Pune. THere is no cost of education on REsearch Associate, so apply the income-tax on them. Thanks to ISRO for giving me this project.
Dear amit whats the difference between project fellow, research associate and project asssistant. and to which categories this fee hike is appplicable. im working in a UGC major project in commerce and my guide told me that this fee hike is applicable to you also . can u clarify me in this regard?
Have you noticed Vikas is gone?By leaving us for debating and wasting time for nothing.He even has no time to interact and give any update.
How busy are you Vikas?You are playing with the fates and believes of the hundreds by doing so.At least keep interacting and don’t be fool us.
REPLY TO RAJ’S CHARGES:
Raj,
1. I am very much here; I read every comment. It is just that most of the time I have nothing to say (thanks to lack of knowledge). Besides, I am very busy now.
2. I have no updates to give. You may note that Amit Ranjan has also recently answered some queries here.
3. I am not playing with the fate and beliefs of anybody; do not attribute such motives to me. I am just a messenger. I have no relatives in CSIR OR UGC OR ICMR. Every piece of paper published here is genuine and official and valid. I am as much frustrated as anyone here about still getting the same JRF/SRF amount!
4. It is not that I have abandoned it. I do moderate comments once in a while (such as Amit’s reply to Tauqir Azam has been published here by me because Amit replied on mail by mistake).
Vikas…
I have to fill my bill for JRF. Could you pls update me on the hike in UGC-JRF. What amt should i fill in the bill…I’ve been told by the scholarship cell in Delhi University that it’s still 12000/-
Deep,
12000 it is, alas!
Dear Vikas, once you gave me the link for PRL fellowship increment notifications..as I am with the project from same department (not from PRL, but from Department of space) can you please clarify about the authenticity about the notice/memorandum.I know it is genuine but ISRO people wants to see it in PRL website what I failed to produce.Please help.
Aniruddha,
Someone here in the comments had posted the link; I only put it in body of post as he couldn’t load it in Google docs for everyone to see. Go through the past comments; you should know who gave the link first (I can give you his/her email if he/she has left one).
Vikas, It is Kshitish who first gave the link on May 04..Please send the email id of him.
Dear all,
Please do something productive,its become frustrating , waiting for confirm news regarding enhance fellowship.
regards
vinod
can anyone tell me after how many months ugc releases first installment of jrf for social science students .suppose a student has registered for phd in november
in which month she get will scolarship ?
and can any student get jrf plus iccssr fellowship simultaneously?
do central universities protect 500 departmental assistance of the candidate who is jrf awardee.
Dear all ICMR has released the notice of fellowship hike on 16th of this month
Dear Mr. Gopi
where is the notice link?
Sorry on 11th of this month
Dear all..
I had called at the hrdg delhi and got the information that the fellowship hike 4 JRFS AND SRFSwill be effective frm APRIL 2010..BUT BY THE TIME WE GET OUR ARREARS IT LL TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS..
so..have patience…
Dear Mr SK This is the link to the ICMR circular
http://icmr.nic.in/circular/2010/21.pdf
Dear Mr. Gopi
Thank You for the information
Finally MHRD and UGC succeeded. Now revision is wef April 2010. This is what MHRD have in mind. They know at last we will settle with hike not with arrears.6th Pay (2008) commission made it revision wef April 2006.Why no arrears for scholars as UGC has informed that they technically decided to enhance fellowship in 2009???
Hello Manish… Where is the link of THIS MHRD and UGC any Circular… ??
Can any body will tell me, Is there any increase in the Fellowship of the JRF (Commerce).
No one can tell you,because in your previous response on June 4 you said:
“See, If you are getting your amount in the form of Scholarship, then it is fully exempt under section 10(16) of Income tax Act, 1961. For more details consult a Chartered Accountant. Do not believe on the answers given in this forum. I hope you will understand.”, means you don’t believe on the answers given on this blog then why are you asking ? So i suggest you not to ask questions if you don’t believe!
send it again…..there are mistakes in previous post.
live in kolkata.I have qualified NET(DEC 09) with criterion JRF(UGC)
in mathematics.I have applied for ISI,kolkata(for ph.d).Initially they had accepted the application but later I was rejected ,only because of the fact that I am a UGC-fellow.The “Dean of Studies” of ISI told me that UGC does a huge delay in sending fellowship and in many case they sent it after 2-3 years after receiving the joining letter from fellow.They remains silent after receiving thousands of reminder from the suffering fellow.This is the way they(UGC) are operating the system-according to the Dean of ISI,kolkata.
My rank is 108,according to me this is not bad (may be not good).I’m not
appearing NET-june10 for better rank and for csir .My question is how far this words of Dean is true?Is this really a fact?Help me I’m in confusion.
yes,its true even then can in ugc they can take 6 months also,2 or 3 monyhs is the minimum time they take to send schalarship,u l call them but they will not receive ur call,The words of ur dean is absolutely true
Guys,
The ICMR notification also says that the contingency will be 20,000 per annum!
Please elaborate somebody.
Arita, I don’t know much the argument of the Dean is flimsy!
dear scientist….does ICMR contingency was lesser than 20,000? I mean CSIR and UGC was already 20000. I m asking coz i dont know abt ICMR
Is it consider to be fair that those who qualify for JRF will get fellowship and even asking for increasing the amount but what about NET qualified students should not be given any financial assistance although both are facing the same exam only the difference is that JRF are being qualified comparatively some marks more. I request on behalf of those qualified NET to authority to think positively over it.
The norms and regulation regarding giving fellowship to Qualified UGC-NET stuents is not fair only JRF students getting grant and what about NET qualified students. Have they not passed the conducted examination? They should also be given some financial assistance so that they can also be able to do research work or Ph.D smoothly and honestly.
dear salim
i think LS-net can also avail fellowship, its given in guidelines of DST. please read carefully, for tat u need to enroll urself.
vinod
hi all
can anyone tell me how to avail the fellowship for net ls qualified candidates?i have contacted DST abt this n even spoken to Dr Milind Kulkarni the information i got was if the candidate is NET LS qualified and working under an GOI project he or she will be entitled for the fellowship as mentioned by DST.so what abt those who have already registered in other university on self financed basis?
sreya
is this icmr fellowship hike applicable for project jrf working in the icmr institute who have not qualified the entrance ICMR
Any body know whether there is any increment in the contingency of UGC _ CSIR NET fellows or it is same as before 20,000? Before i heard that along with fellowship this is also going to increase. If any body know plzzz let me know.
Regards
Kshirod.
Dear All,
I am SRF here in National Chemical Laboratory, On friday (18-06-10) one meeting was there in between all scientist and Director the conclusion of meeting is increase in fellowship JRF 16000 & SRF 18000 and announcement for academy formed by csir so there is no need to go for any other university for registration.
ANAND
Anand, I came to know that NCL, Pune is deducting Income-tax from Research Associate fellowships. How far is it true? Pls enquire and let me know.
Hi,Malini
As per my knowledge there is no deduction of incom tax in RA’S fellowship, in my same group one CSIR and one Neheru Fellow is there , but both are getting full salary except 190/- detection,this is but they d’nt know.
does this fee hike is applicable to PROJECT FELLOW IN UGC MAJOR PROJECT?
Hi to everyone,
i want to know regards RGNF, if their is any increment information in this fellowship scheme then please let me know or sent it to my email id. My email is sushil_661@yahoo.com
dear sushil,
ur financing agency is ugc, so u can expect for increment.
IS THIS FEE HIKE IS APPLICABLE TO PROJECT FELLOW IN UGC MAJOR PROJECT IN COMMERCE?
Dear colleges,
I am presently work as SRF (NET) in CSIR Lab. I join institute as JRF (NET) on 26-06-2006. In 26-06-2008 my JRF is extended to SRF (NET) by approval from 3 member comity. Now there is end of 4th year. Now institute is terminating my fellowship, by saying that you have completed total 5 year of tenure JRF/SRF. While asking, they informed that you had competed one year in project as JRF.
Actually previously, I work in some other institution as JRF in sponsored project for one year. The offer letter of that institute are as such:
Sub: Offer of purely project based appointment against the position of junor Research Fellow iunder the DST (GPS-Sikkim) Project.
And in rules they write:
You will be paid a fixed amount of Rs 8000 + HRA pm as per rule
The offer may be terminated at any time without any prior intimation and or assigning any reason thereof.
I want to know is the period of the work at previous institute will be counted in UGC-CSIR (NET) fellowship. Moreover previous institute not give any preference to registered for Ph.D.
Bhubesh Chander Joshi
hai mr. b. c. joshi
ur previous tenure vll be not counted any more.better u write a letter to csir regarding this matter and get a letter from them. ur institute has no right to terminate ur fellowship.
wish u all d best.
with regards
vinod
My NET fellowship is terminated, and CSIR has counted the JRF period spend by me n project
PLEASE ANYBODY TELL IS THIS FEE HIKE IS APPLICABLE TO PROJECT FELLOW IN UGC MAJOR PROJECT IN COMMERCE?
would anyone know how much HRA one can claim as in Mumbai?
would anyone know how much HRA one can claim under JRF in Mumbai?
Dear Puja,
As your question, HRA amount for Mumbai is 30% of basic.
And I am mentioning it that there are six states in India which have 30% of basic is HRA those are, Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Hyderabad, Chennai, Banglore. But if you have take institute accomadation facility then you won’t get HRA amount.
Best wishes
Amit
Thank-you Amit
Dear Friends
I am totally confused by reading some of the comments in our group.I would like to know that how much is the basic aount of JRF now-a-days?
Ratheeshkumar
hi frends
im pursuing my m.pharmacy …am i eliigible for SRF???,.is their any need of me writing NET or icmr or csir exam for getting fellowship as it is a professional post grad degree…what are the things i need to do for getting the csir or ugc srf fellowships….
plzzz plzz help mee in this regard
when this feel hike will be applicable to project fellows who are selected through selection committee?
I am jayaprakash,i have qualified ugc jrf held on june 2009,i would like to join in s.v university,tirupati in andhrapradesh,which is an local university,so please tell me whether the stipund(jrf) will release or not by ugc to me or not.
my friend(with ugc jrf) also joined in the same university in the last year and he applied for stipund but still he didn’t receive the stipund,so please tell me whether i can join or not in that university, i am waiting for your reply.
Hay ………..ICMR has declaired OM for increased fellowship. See at its official site.
http://icmr.nic.in/circular/2010/21.pdf
I have removed Indian’s comment and subsequent queries on UGC increasing the amount as no proof/link was provided (and I also didn’t find any). This has been done to prevent rumours. If anyone has any official notification or link please share it.
dear researchers
i think this link can give u some happiness
http://www.csmcri.org/PHP/Jobs/jobs.php
that may be dst projects , and thats not the institue fellowship i guess
dear reddy
tat is for phd scholars nd institute fellowship wat ever funding agency for everybody even ls can also apply.
okay vinod, actually im not sure i just only tought it that way , bz there is a friend of mine in that institue and there is no any up dates from him?
Hi there…
I am Libison K B, Research and Teaching Assistant at School of Management Studies, IGNOU, New Delhi. Could anybody give information regarding when UGC goes to Notify about increased fellowship. Our university does not come under UGC. Still they say if you claim for increased fellowship show the UGC notification. If somebody could provide information…please…..
How much time are needed to receive the csir fellowship ?
any body plz tell me regarding the fellowship for net-LS Students I have qualified net-LS three times and working as PA to get the LS fellowship did I need to join any project or just enrollment in Phd course.
hiiiiiii………what is the new jrf amount
what isthe new jrf amt…..
Dear all,
Fellowship has been increased. As you know it is published on DST and ICMR website. CSIR rules are goverened by DST so it is also applicable on CSIR. But UGC is independent and they have annonced 18000/21000 For JRF/SRF from 1st sep 2009. They are trying for getting fund from Finance. But I do not know what is the problem.Please wait…. If UGC maintain his words then it will be helpful for us.
I was busy in various works so after long time I saw this matter. we should wait maximally upto August end. After that we have to do a big demonstration either UGC or MHRD. Please wait and be honest with research because we are the best citizens of this country.
Thanks All,
Amit Ranjan
thanxxx….
Till date salary didn’t hike…when hike will come to action…God knows!
Nice to hear something clear and positive about the fellowship increase by the UGC for JRFs/SRFs (Refer Mr. Amit Ranjan’s comments). However when we all will actually receive the increased amount is still under doubt. But the governing body should atleast make it clear that the fellowship has been or will be increased as announced earlier for sure.
Joyti,
Mr Thorat(UGC Chaireman) is not clear about Fellowship. He said publicly that he will inform us regarding answer of RTI( 18000/21000 from sep 2009).But we could not get any information from his side.
You should understand that this recomandation is passed by UGC not Finacce.I saw the minutes of that meeting.About UGC, I am not sure But CSIR, ICMR,fellow will get amount 16000/18000 from april 2010. Please wait, I think decission Of UGC will help us.
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan,
JNU
Yes Mr. Amit,
I do got your point about the still awaited approval of the increased fellowship at the Finance Department’s end. I just wanted to be clear about whether it will definitely increase for UGC-JRFs/SRFs later or sooner or not so that we could plan our career plans accordingly. But yes, u r very right as we will have to wait for the UGC’s and HRD’s final decision!
Jyoti
UGC-SRF (Economics)
I am CSIR SRF (direct) but still I am getting 14000/- basic i.e, not the increased amount as Mr Amit says CSIR people will get but in our CSIR laboratory only the students working in the DST project are getting enhanced fellowship. As CSIR has not given any official memo so we are still not getting the increased fellowship. so Mr Amit can you plese tell when will CSIR give their official memo so that we also get the enhanced fellowship. As they have done previously in 2007.
You are right Niladri,
CSIR has also not increased fellowship yet.. There is no official OM YET..
But soon they have to increase… After all, they have to follow DST OM..
Niladri,
The greatest problem of us that we never want to use our brain.
Please go through Some Published RTI. You will get your answer.
CSIR fellowship are received based on revision of fellowship by Department of Science and Technology.Published DST notification explains about Fellowship.
CSIR is bond to follow the law of land. Main Problem about UGC. Please wait. Because UGC announcement is more friendly to students.CSIR may be waiting for UGC announcement. YOU are going to get your fellowship (approved by DST).Because this is approved by DST, MHRD and Finace under non plan expenditure.
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan,
JNU
Thanks Mr. Amit and Rajesh for your answer.
DAE has increased the fellowship as according to i think UGC.
We will get it from april 2010.
https:// docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=129a80d21870dfcc&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D0ef350fa51%26view%3Datt%26th%3D129a80d21870dfcc%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df_gbasuuki0%26zw&sig=AHIEtbSWbZStNPw3QMEryLyFZZOy7P7QvA&pli=1
See links below or in main text of blog post (the link in this particular comment does not work). – Vikas
Plz anyone tell me that after sending the joining report how much time UGC take to sanction the fellowship? Do CSIR take less time than UGC? If so,then why?
Confused,
Yar apna sahi nam to likho.
Ans- It depends upon insititute and university. Generally for UGC 1-2 months and CSIR 1-4 months. It is not certain but definatly for insitute CSIR is good.
We have same question put forward to Mr Lutra and CSIR DG during our meeting. They just bypass by saying “this is due to ignorance of insitute and university”. But in reality, I think we are responsible. Please ask these questions by RTI to directly CSIR/’UGC. If someone not getting fellowship after 15 days of dispatch from university. Simply ask though RTI” What is status of…….”. You will see the effect.
Amit Ranjan,
JNU
Please anyone help me. Recently I have received my certificate of NET.But there is a small mistake.My name and adress are as follows-
SANJAY KUMAR PAUL
C/O JAYANTA PAUL
VILL- SETH COLONY
POST- KALIYAGANJ
DIST- UTTAR DINAJPUR
PIN-733129
But my problem is that in my adress instead of DIST-UTTAR DINAJPUR
there is UTTAR PRADESH. If there will be any problem for that? And now
what should I do? Please help me in this regard.
If you got certificate then there is no problem.
Amit Ranjan
JNU
Vikas
Plz post the DAE notoce link, if you have it from kshitish.
DAE Fellowship hike link:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_EvIigv_pfcZTVmMjQwYWYtMDU0Ny00NzAxLWI1MTAtMjYwZTM2YTc0MGE0&hl=en
Thanks Jatis. I have also uploaded the DAE notification pdf file on this link http://vikas-gupta.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/JRF-fellowship-revision-by-DAE.pdf
Glad to see the DAE notification with no mention of NET qualification.
Can anyone tell what actually means by the revised fellowship of DST.
I am a project fellow of University working in a DST project, completed B tech and joined as JRF (Project) and Don’t have Gate or NET.Getting Stipend Rs.12000+HRA. Am i eligible to get the revised fellowship, and if yes? then what will the revised stipend.
Some Documents is also needed for submission as the university authority or DST don’t think for the fellow. Please provide some important documents in this regards..
Dear all,
Today I got Answers of One my RTI rom UGC. They are saying same as I .
ANS OF RTI regarding Fellowship….Yes , the UGC fellowship has been incresed. It is pending with the M/HRD per the financial apprpval.
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan
.
Dear Amit Ranjan
Can UGC confirm exact amount of fellowship amount in latest RTI reply and date of implementation of enhanced amount.
If possible please attach RTI reply provided by UGC (latest).
Thanks
Amit Kumar
Delhi University
Dear,
I saw the file in which UGC had recommended 18K/21K from 1 sep 2009. It is pending with the M/HRD per the financial apprpval. I will upload that file when I get Time. Presently I am busy to another cause along with my research. Please wait, we will try to arrange a big demonstration infront of MHRD. I will try to initiate after Augst. if You can do something , Please do or Wait……
Thanks,
Amit Ranjan,
JNU
Can anyone tell what actually means by the revised fellowship of DST.
I am a project fellow of University working in a DST project, completed B tech and joined as JRF (Project) and Don’t have Gate or NET.Getting Stipend Rs.12000+HRA. Am i eligible to get the revised fellowship, and if yes? then what will the revised stipend.
Some Documents is also needed for submission as the university authority or DST don’t think for the fellow. Please provide some important documents in this regards..
Thanks Amit Great work….we would suddenly provide our active participation ……
Sorry for the mistake
Thanks Amit Great work….we would surely provide our active participation ……
I don’t know why MHRD is delaying the process to fix final stamp on UGC’S recommendation for increase in Assistanceship. Can anyone tell me what is the hinderance? Why they are unnecessarily delaying the matter?
Dear All,
I do not think a demonstration would help us. Researchers are not supposed to do this activity. If we would like to do something we all fellowship holders must give resignation on a particular day. It might be helpful. Otherwise think over to get another job.
Jai Hind
I do heartily appreciate works of Amit…
Thank you Amit !
when CSIR will increase the fellowship? how much they r going to increase
when are going to upload the latest RTI reply
when are going to upload the latest RTI reply
Sharad,
Amit Ranjan ji has already disclosed the contents of the said RTI reply. So how does it matter whether you get to see that reply or not! He has already told us what is in that reply. RTI replies are very boring and look the same all the time! If you are still curious about one do find some RTI replies (pdf) in the main blog post. Thanks.
thanks amit for ur updates .
What about CSIR Fellowship,How much time time will be taken by m/hrd
when the notification come out in website
Hi, Amit Ranjan, I have some request to u. I talked with my father who has knowledge of Politics quite well. He told that u people can send a request letter to the chair person of UPA i.e Sonia Gandhi, that will be effective.Secondly he suggested that if we can present our request to the opposition like Susma swaraj and Lal krushna Advani then it will be all the more powerful.
So these are just request, i am not suggesting, if u feel it is possible as well as effective then we may try to do some thing like writing our demand and send to these people than to send to Kapill Sibal nad President .
With regards
KShirod.
Thanks Kshirod,
Your advice is appreciable and We will do that. Presently, I am extremly busy so please wait…..
hi ,
i m currently working as a jrf in ICGEB, new delhi. I m not a NET qualified candidate. now i m getting a fellowship of 12000. And i also heard that the stipened is increasing to 18000. will i get this increment or not .
it was announced 18k/21k but icmr started with 16k/18k only from 1 april 2010
Hi,
Your idea is good Shirod.
now i m doing Ph.D at A.M.U. Aligarh, taking admission inthis session 2009-2010. but we are not getting ugc non-net fellowship. we heard that others university like BHU ,Jamia Millia university giving fellowship to the Ph.D STUDENTS. can you providing the related document of this university giving fellowship to Ph.D students enrolled in the academic session 2009-2010. A.M.U. V.C. is demanding related documents while we are meeting, he said that UGC is NOT SANCTION further financial support for the ph.d
Hello Frds
I got the UGC JRF for Music in June 2009 – H.P. University Shimla
I Haven’t got my sanction letter for the release of the fellowship yet …..donno why !!!
My fellowmates here in HP.Univ are getting Rs 12000 pm as their JRF.
I heard some news that the amount is due to increase to 18000 by november……
Rumours all around……ne idea if the scholarship is schedules to increase for the Arts feild ??
cheerz
Gagan
This is the reply to Gagan’s query here by Sanjay Ranjan who by mistake replies to the email and not on the blog:
Hello yes all subjects fellowship increase.
Sanjay Ranjan
CSIR-SRF
Department of Plant Physiology.
National Botanical Research Institute,
Lucknow-226001
U.P (India)
M.No 09838829205
hello i am a MBA, NET Qualified and doing my phd AT NIT,Kurkshetra under humanities deptt. i am getting a fellowship of 12000/-,,,can any body hepl me that i am getting right one or when the fellowship increases for NITs
yeps all ppl whom i know with net-jrf are getting 12k…..u should also get some hra-house rent allowance. at least 1 k plus… (depends & varies amongst the university rules)
try finding out regarding that….
cheerz
Hello Guys
both good and bad new !!
good is -Today all IITs got letters of DST to implement to revise fellowship of phd.
bad is – IITs not following what UGC said revised amount.
cheerz
Ashish H
Hi Ashis,
Can u pls share source of imformation?? I am not clear about your post
Thanking you
Malish C M
Hi Manish
IITs are instructed to follow the DST fellowship revision .
pdf of that can be found on DST website.An official circular has been circulated by registrar to follow DST enhance fellowship.
bye
Hi Ahish..sorry to trouble you. I could not find information reg DST circular recommending IITs to follow dst fellowship. “DST fellowship enhanced” announcement website is an old OM.I also contacted IIT Delhi authorities. IIT did not get such circular.
I will be happy if you could send me link or documents (if you have soft copy)..Thanks in advance
I serached DSt website. OM (dated 31 March 2010) seen in site is old one and that is for personnels of R and D units not to normal PhD. Can you send link or pdf to my email malishiitd@gmail.com
Thanks in advance
yes same is seen by me bt that is showing the jrf & srf improved ,now i have 2 queries
1. I am a MBA, is MBA will come under professional course
2.i am geting 12000 that is right figure for me?? should i handover this documents to autority so they can help me in finding out my exact scholarship
and also plz tell me whn will(tentative time) scholarship amunt increase?????
thank you
Felloship will never increse. So please leave it collectively.
I have many questions that what help we are getting out of this blog discussions?Have we ever we get any benefit out of it?Fellowship announcement is taking its own time rather than being announced at the brisk pace.Don’t you think we all are wasting our time? I support Lota Baba.So please Vikas Don’t take this Personally,but we all should leave now and leave the rest to the GOD.
Leave all the things on God, he will complete your PhD and all why you are doing work in lab.Well done Vikas you do your job we are with you, this blog is always read by system also ( DG CSIR and all) so d’nt stop and write i positive attitute always.
ANAND
This is not the way you talk with the others,is that all your parents have taught you? i have suggest made the critical suggestion,and was not forcing you.If you don’t agree then it’s ok,who else force you.
Ha ha ha Ram… well FYI there are lot of info I got from this blog. If u are just a passive reader and just a talker, that does not mean that this blog is not of use to others. These guys like Vikas, Amit and other fellow researchers in Delhi had put in lot of effort and more imp. their time in having continual discussions with bureaucrats to make this hike happen. Now it has come to the level of implementation.
So Vikas, Amit Ranjan and others dont listen to people who can only talk.
Hi,
I am fully agreed with Ram. But it does not mean this blog is completely useless. We can get some valuable information here but not helping us to find what we looking for.
Bye!
Ya, one thing more I would like to add here. Quality of PhD work or a Scholar does not depend on fellowship as someone said. Please do not pass any comment which hurt someone.
At IIT Roorkee JRF/SRF are not getting HRA and provided accomodation in hostel. But despite this they have to pay Rs.50 per day for hostel charges, which are guest charges. The point is they are losing their HRA and still paying for the accomodation. I want to ask is this the same situation in other IITs with JRF/SRF. Please reply i really want to know.
This is the reply by Yatendra Kumar to IIT Roorkee sent on mail by mistake. Please everyone do not reply in mail but do reply here on the blog.
dear vikas , im from an NIT , i had csir jrf, icmr jrf and gate , but the fate of scholars is pathetic here , we pay 600 as room rent per month and even we dont get any HRA ,and coming to fees , its aroynd 40,000 per year, checking with authorites help only when they wish to help but pple here belives that they are feeding us and we are at their mercy to live some thing figured out as perfect beurocracy by me . and other thing is that they will take away our certificates , and will give back only when we pay all the fees and all recived stipend , i whould really admire your help if some body file some RTIS regarding the issue , the institute is NIT CALICUT, i dont know what the hell happens here and people always keeps thertening students , i was previously from iitg , but i never expecetd MHRD institute to be like this and I sincerly hope that some of u guys can take it to officials by filling some RTIS. PEOPLE LIKE THIS DHOOMS RESEARCH , ITS JUST BASICALLY LIKE TRAPPPING WHEN U GIVE THE CERTIFICATES, AND I DONNO WHERE THE STUPID PARLIMENTERAIANS ARE SLEEPING OR DEAD PROBABLY NOT TO HAVE ANY CONCERN FA PPLE IN THE INSTITUTE WHICH THEY GIVE 150 CRS EVERY YEAR
can anyone inform me when will the application procedure for SRF(engg.) in CSIR start for 2010?
You can keep an eyewatch on csirhrdg website. last year they advertised it on August-Sept.
dear Yatendra Kumar,
i m JRF from IITB. We also pay hostel fee etc. but CSIR give us 750 per month in form of HRA. This system must be there in all IITs. Contact your office
dont even ask about iitkgp
its more like a blood sucking parasite
here i stay outside that is not in hostel but still i have to pay an amount of 7250 !!!!! per semester as hostel overhead charges..(just imagine….) the total semester fee even when staying outside comes to 13225 INR…
So now all u people say whether we need an enhanced fellowship or not..
I am really surprised to know, why there is so much discrepancies in our fellowships let it be JRF, SRF OR RAship. Why there is not same fellowships etc at all places when the selection criteria is same at all places and they demand the same output from all of us. So that we also can say finally that this is the rule for fellowships and not for DSTs or UGCs etc. And then only nobody can make fool of us by saying that this is their “RULE”.
Is there any association/ organisation of indian researchers / scholars ?
please let me know if you have any information. i think, we the research scholars of different universities and different institutes shuold have our association. only then we can put our opinion in front of others.
many of us are doing PhD work without a guarranty of a job and a large numbers of students, after doing M.Sc. , are doing other things instead of research studies, or going abroad just for money.
If research work in our country , is not encouraged, then how would our civilization grow in future?
What you can do by forming the association, you can share ur sorrows, but something shld also come out.
There is no guarantee of any degree to give you a job in india, not even for PhD’s. We initialy start because of our interest and fellowships. Just MSc will never get this money. Its more though. But it requires hardwork n devotion, so this fellowship is not enough.
Going abroad is not just for money, if they get a job in their own country, why they will go. but they donot got respective jobs in india, so goes abroad.
Why u dont enquire to the institutes which take those people who have exposure in abroad. why they have no place for those who are in india.
nice thoughts malini….
Hi…….. is there any news from DRDO?
is there any news from DRDO?plz inform.
by forming our association, we can show the disputs in the system.
i>’There is no guarantee of any degree to give you a job in india.’
But a Ph.D. shoud do it.The fact is that,hard work and devotion is not enough.there are people capable of doing hard work and devotion.But the situation is not so simple everytime! everybody have to care about their family & future at sometime.if he/she is the only source of income or from a poor family,then he/she gets into trouble.It is easy for every hard working and devoted student to get a school teaching job or other permanent job.so he/she gets a job and spends the rest of his life in that.
each of these incidence is a blow to india’s future.
2>’if they get a job in their own country, why they will go abroad?’
job,money,security :they are same.
If a student can do good research work in abroad, why they can’t do the same in india. it is the same brain.this is the age of internet. we get all the information with a mouse click.and if you say, there is a better environment abroad, then there is a need to clear our environment.
we should ask for job gurranty for each Ph.D. student. so that a hard working and devoted student never think twice before joining a ph.d. program.
3>’Why u dont enquire to the institutes which take only those people who have exposure in abroad?’
dear malini, thank you for raising this point.
everybody knows that talent, hard work & past parformances should be the only measure. cv raman got his noble prize by doing his work in kolkata. s.n.bose never went outof india.so if today cv raman or s.n. bose had gone to those institutes , they have been rejected.
there is a need to correct this disputes. we should raise our voice.
so this is why i think there should have been an association for greater good.
hi…i am doing ph.d at IITK. When i took admission two years ago the admission fees was 8000 per semestar but as times goes on in every semestar it hikes by 1000 and finally now we have paid 13000 for next semestar resistraion….and there is one more interesting matter is that..from this year iitk announced that if any student want to stay at hostel in summer vacation he has to pay 3400 and we paid it….you can imagine that the actual fellowship what they offer student, govt. already get 40 % of itin return by different way back….fellowship is just like a plank’s constant it will never changes…but different types of fees
is just like a function of time square…so it is my request to all that do not suggest any junior to comme iit for ph.d…..
hallo friends….
Can anybody give any information regarding the fellowship hike…why the matter is delaying so much?
Government is Sleeping… They can only increase fees and inflation…. do not want to increase fellowship…
In IITKgp the semester regd. fee is Rs. 22095.00 for PdD scholar staying in hall (Hostel). Those staying in B. C. Roy HAll they have to pay extra money at the end of each semester for extra food (two months after semester over).
In IITKgp the semester registration fee is Rs. 22095.00 for Pd. D scholar staying in hall (Hostel). Those staying in B. C. Roy HAll they have to pay extra money at the end of each semester for extra food (two months after semester over).
HI ALL.. ANY INFORMATION REGARDING INCREASING JRF,SRF..? DO U HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE WILL GET INCTREASED SCHOLLARSHIP?
DBT has also given online notification for the revision of fellowships.
http://dbtindia.nic.in/DBT%20RA%20stipend.pdf
http://dbtindia.nic.in/ifd.pdf
Hi,Amit Ranjan I am UGC JRF and send the required document for award letter 6 months before.I have not received award letter yet, please tell how much time it will take to get award letter and fellowship.
thank you.
Dear Arvind,
There is some problem. Either mistake by your side or UGC side.I hope you have xerox of all documents. I do not know from where you are. IF YOU are from Delhi or nearby you may visit directly to UGC and enquire about that with xerox of all documents.
You should ask question throuh RTI if you are far away from Delhi
Format,
To,
CPIO,
UGC, New Delhi.
Sub- seeking information under RTI Act 2005.
Sir,
I want to know following information under RTI act 2005.
Q1- —-
Thanks,
—-
—–
—-
Try to find out adress of UGC,Just mention UGC CPIO and attach postal order Rs 10 and send it to UGC. You will see the effect. Please attach all documents for support of your subission. If you feel you may contact me @ 09818674016.
Hi Arvinda
Don’t worry UGC takes time in doing every thing…six months is not big time for them.
But do check at UGC office or through RTI, as suggested by Amit.
Best Wishes
Hi Vikas,
I have a doubt about the implementation of the revised fellowship.
Are non-NET students pursuing PhD from a govt organization eligible for hike?
I ask this because our institute which comes under DST has been denied the revised fellowship sighting UGC NET as the reason.
Kindly reply
Hi Amit Ranjan, i will ask about status of document by RTI.I am basically from Mumbai.If i am having problem i will call you.thank you for quick response.
Hi Arvinda,
I have got RTI reply from UGC on 8th July reg fellowship. It says MHRD approval is still awaited for enhancement of fellowship to 18 and 21 thousand. I think, it is time for demanding political decision (at ministry level)… New RTI to UGC, may not be that much beneficial. But it is advisable to file RTI to MHRD, if the said information comes under purview of RTI act.
If interested you can see http://transformingjourneys.blogspot.com/
Dear Arvinda,
Apologies for cross posting. My post is reg fellowship enhancement not your particular case. By mistake I addressed you…
@ Malish C M
Thnxz for your Update…seems like a drop of water in the desert
read the following link
http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20100807/1416/tnl-iits-yet-to-be-counted-among-top-100_1.html
The are expecting the best brain in India to come in to research while the amount given to research scholars is very less and stands no where as compared to the perks and packages given to the candidates who opt to go to industries. So IIT’s on one side you are not happy to give enhanced scholarship to research scholars,and on other hand you are expecting your research level to be as high as in Harvard university.This is the foolish idea that IITs Vice-president does have?So Mr Vice-president first of all make the research scholar financially secure so that they find this field as their career making field.Give them financial security so that they can concentrate on their research work only.Because at last a research scholar also has to feed a family for that he would definitely look for the profession where he can manage it easily and hugely.So he would go to industries rather than coming to research field where we are still not getting our right. Lecturers are getting the enhanced pay w.e.f 1at Jan,2006,while the research scholar who is doing the research work by leaving his job would get(yet not confirmed from UGC and CSIR) the enhanced scholarship w.e.f 1st April,2010.What is the reason for his disparity.So first of all make the best brains comfortable only then expect them to come to research.
Has the University Grants Commission (UGC)increased the Junior and Senior Research Fellowships (JRF/SRF) to 18000 and 21000 Rupees per month respectively?
how to get the copy of the letter from ugc if the fellowship has increased?