Reg. disclosing private conversations (ref. the hot discussion with secretary) based on appointments with such ppl frm govt agencies… its not that easy/safe… I feel. At least fellow researchers like Amit ranjan and team do things… we just listen and comment. So they need to take time and compose a statement that wont be offending any one. So it takes time.

May be the partial motive behind willing to give appointments and maintaining clever silence / tricky replies in RTIs, I feel, is that RTIs can be disclosed in forums like this but not all the conversations based on appointments and even if disclosed they can claim that they meant something else as there will be no written evidence for discussions as in case of RTI.

So lets wait… (I am not bothered even if the final decision comes much later but implemented retrospectively frm April 2010 so that I get a lump-sum in arrears… )

And just FYI, it’s @ArushiFabBlab.

Thanks! xo

Thanks.

Amit Ranjan has sent a 4 MB PDF on RTI replies and about a forum. He also said they will get a concrete reply from officials in about 20 days. I am facing a technical error in uploading it here and will do it on Monday.

Here is some text from it:

Dear friends,
After getting response from Respected T. Ramaswami the group of
researchers from AIIMS, JNU, NII, IIT, ICGEB and UCMS meet Dr Milind in DST.
In the corridor we saw Ramaswami sir and tried to enquire about fellowship. There was
hot discussion between us and Mr. Secretary. We will disclose later about discussion. Dr Milind said us for wait some time. We obeyed and decided to wait some times. Friends it is highly condemnable about DST and CSIR as they are not disclosing anything to
researchers. They are fearful about RTI act.

As a sincere citizen of our country we feel there must be reform in Science and
technology so we are coming under one umbrella named Scientific research forum of
India. We have submitted our demand to Mr. Secretary and hope there must be positive
response if he is willing to reform the Scientific System. We submitted some proposal
please see that.
Thanks,

Amit Ranjan ,
Research Scholar,
JNU, New Delhi.
Ph-9818674016
Email- amikaranjan@gmail.com

Dr. T. Ramasami
Secretary, DST
Government of India

Respected Sir,
Society of Young Scientists, AIIMS, New Delhi on behalf of all other institutes like JNU, NII, Delhi University, ICGEB, IGIB, MAMC wants to have an official meeting with you regarding the revision of the emoluments of the JRFs/SRFs. As stated by the DG (CSIR) Dr. Samir K. Bramachari and Dr. Rajesh Luthra (Head, HRDG) DST acts as a
coordinating body on behalf all other funding agencies for the revisioin of the
emoluments of JRFs/SRFs. So sir please gives your appointment at an early date to
discuss the above issue.

Thanking You,

Sincerely
Sanjeev Kumar Chaudhary
Chairman
Society of Young Scientists (SYS)
AIIMS, New Delhi-110608
Mobile No: 91-9868636871
E-MAIL-sanjeevchaudhary.aiims@gmail.com

Dear Shri Chaudhary,
I receive your note of March 3, 2010. We had initiated steps for such revisions through
an Inter-Ministerial Consultation. We are at the moment discussing the details with
Ministry of Finance. DST and other Government Departments do not enjoy the
flexibility of decision bodies like CSIR and UGC.
It will be done hopefully by April, 2010. I would request you to kindly wait for
sometime. If you have anything specific, I would request you to kindly meet some of my
colleagues in the Department during this phase of discussions. Such arrangements are
unfortunately necessary and unavoidable at this time.
Kindest regards,
Yours sincerely,
Dr. T. Ramasami,
Secretary,
Department of Science & Technology,
19, Technology Bhawan, New Mehrauli Road,
New Delhi 110 016.
Tel: 011 – 2651 1439 / 2651 0068
E-mail: dstsec@nic.in